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Rado63
·In todays word everything about the watch can be fake, The watch, the movement, the box and papers. So if you have doubts you should of course buy from a dealer who accepts returns and has a great sales reputation over time. If you buy from a private seller then verify the sellers identity, they had the same phone number overtime , known address and ask for as much identifying information as possible. get purchase receipts and a service history. Service history can be confirmed online or by calling the service center for major brands. If the watch is a newer model and you cannot confirm service history then you need to purchase with buyer protection even if it raises the cost of the watch, meaning use paypal or a credit card. some on line sellers now offer authentication services but of course that adds cost but it is worth it. I feel that those are the only methods we can protect ourselves from fakes.
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·Everything I can see says "real" but I'd be a bit concerned about the composition of the close-ups. They appear purposely too-close to see some of the obvious tells. Look for a single stud-holder (no regulator arm) on the balance. Also compare the locations and number and locations of holes on the back plate.
Here's some shots of an authentic 9300 movement:
One of the tells that your pictures pass is the presence of staffs in the jewels. A recent series of fakes put a very genuine looking plate over a cheap chinese movement but the jewels were empty, no staffs.
Another is what appears to be a free-sprung balance wheel with adjusting weights on the inside of the rim; I can see it in the second balance picture you posted.
Here's some shots of an authentic 9300 movement:
One of the tells that your pictures pass is the presence of staffs in the jewels. A recent series of fakes put a very genuine looking plate over a cheap chinese movement but the jewels were empty, no staffs.
Another is what appears to be a free-sprung balance wheel with adjusting weights on the inside of the rim; I can see it in the second balance picture you posted.
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watchbie
·In todays word everything about the watch can be fake, The watch, the movement, the box and papers. So if you have doubts you should of course buy from a dealer who accepts returns and has a great sales reputation over time. If you buy from a private seller then verify the sellers identity, they had the same phone number overtime , known address and ask for as much identifying information as possible. get purchase receipts and a service history. Service history can be confirmed online or by calling the service center for major brands. If the watch is a newer model and you cannot confirm service history then you need to purchase with buyer protection even if it raises the cost of the watch, meaning use paypal or a credit card. some on line sellers now offer authentication services but of course that adds cost but it is worth it. I feel that those are the only methods we can protect ourselves from fakes.
Long story short: Buy the seller! If there is anything that leaves doubts about the seller, don't pull the trigger.
- Reputation (transaction history, ratings, behavior)
- Quality of pictures (good quality vs grainy/blurry pictures of the watch only)
- Price sounds "too good to be true"
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Rado63
·Long story short: Buy the seller! If there is anything that leaves doubts about the seller, don't pull the trigger.
- Reputation (transaction history, ratings, behavior)
- Quality of pictures (good quality vs grainy/blurry pictures of the watch only)
- Price sounds "too good to be true"
- ...
Agree quality of pictures is also a good indicator of someone trying to accurately represent the watch. Poor photos or just one or two photos don't feel you can tell what you are buying. Also a good seller whether a shop or a private seller is always happy to send more pictures. no reason not to send, but if they say something such as it's in our shipping ware house, closed for chinese new year, yes will get some as soon as we can but never send any pictures, then probably not someone you want to work with.
