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The modern SMP design exists as it does in order to physically support the material that many customers and dumb YouTube personalities insisted upon in order to make it "premium" and competitive and to move it upmarket

Just a point of information here, the summer blue Seamaster Heritage has a case back to bezel measurement of just under 12 mm (11.83mm or so). It has a ceramic bezel insert and steel caseback. If this watch went to a flat Crystal like the planet ocean has, it would be 12.3 - 12.5 mm thick. An SMP style crystal would probably result in a thickness very close to 13.2 mm. Omega chose a taller, vintage style dome.

I think it was true that Omega needed a larger ceramic bezel insert to avoid breakage at one time (I have heard it said that they didn't use a ceramic bezel in the Seamaster Trilogy for this reason- it was too thin and would break), but I don't think it is true anymore.

Obviously the rest of design of the SMP is a lot different than the heritage. But comparably, the first generation Seamaster professional had a very thin bezel, in the mid case of the current Seamaster is certainly thicker than the current heritage, and it may not need to be.

It could be did the mid-case thickness is there specifically for the ceramic dial. I don't actually know how thick that dial is compared to the average brass dial though
 
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Just a point of information here, the summer blue Seamaster Heritage has a case back to bezel measurement of just under 12 mm (11.83mm or so). It has a ceramic bezel insert and steel caseback. If this watch went to a flat Crystal like the planet ocean has, it would be 12.3 - 12.5 mm thick. An SMP style crystal would probably result in a thickness very close to 13.2 mm. Omega chose a taller, vintage style dome.

I think it was true that Omega needed a larger ceramic bezel insert to avoid breakage at one time (I have heard it said that they didn't use a ceramic bezel in the Seamaster Trilogy for this reason- it was too thin and would break), but I don't think it is true anymore.

Obviously the rest of design of the SMP is a lot different than the heritage. But comparably, the first generation Seamaster professional had a very thin bezel, in the mid case of the current Seamaster is certainly thicker than the current heritage, and it may not need to be.

It could be did the mid-case thickness is there specifically for the ceramic dial. I don't actually know how thick that dial is compared to the average brass dial though

The bezel insert is thicker than the aluminum one and the steel (or titanium) bezel is thicker to support the fragile ceramic. You can look at the date window to see how thick the ceramic dial is.

As far as thickness, again, there is a lot of disparate concerns that people have. I don't think a curved sapphire crystal is as precious as many other Seamaster design elements, but I also don't think it markedly changes the thickness of the watch. Not where it counts the most. Especially when we are comparing the modestly curved SMP crystal to a flat one. I think a display caseback falls onto the same category, but is likely more noticeable on the wrist.

A truly thinner SMP will only come by going back to basics; brass, aluminum (or other exotic similar performing material), solid caseback. It probably won't be as svelte as the early 2000s SMP, certainly not the 1960s SM300, but it might be a welcome change. I really think it's the ceramic dial that has to go. The contemporary Submariner has a brass dial, most put it at 12 to 12.5mm thick interestingly. Elimination of the HEV and switching to a fully automatic (smaller overall diameter) version may reduce thickness, too. Then the design question becomes if you keep the helium resistance of the design, how might those changes drive overall thickness? It's a bunch of sliding rules, nothing is designed in isolation.

Watch design is a constrained optimization problem. Every variable pushes on other variables. You are constantly trading:
thickness, rigidity, water resistance, shock resistance, magnetic resistance, serviceability, manufacturability, movement dimensions, visual proportions, bracelet integration, crystal geometry, bezel architecture, and identity.

You dont get anything for free.

A thinner crystal may require: different gasket compression, less safety margin, or a thicker retaining structure elsewhere (looking at you ceramic). A thinner mid-case may require:
shorter movement height, reduced dial clearance, less rotor travel margin, or different caseback geometry. A flatter caseback may worsen wearability if the lugs are not adjusted. A thinner bezel may reduce grip. A thinner automatic movement may reduce rotor efficiency or durability.

Even aesthetic decisions cascade mechanically: lyre lugs distribute visual mass differently, broad flat lugs visually amplify thickness, polished bevels can visually “shrink” a case, domed crystals can hide bezel height, darker bezels visually compress vertical mass. I do respect Rolex and their Submariner because for all intents and purposes, it's quite faithful to what was in the beginning. I mean, details have been changed, it's shinier, but it's impressive in a way that it's so similar.
 
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The bezel insert is thicker than the aluminum one

The grand-feu ceramic bezel on the summer blue Heritage has the exact same bezel dimensions as the standard aluminum variant on the regular heritage. There is no increase in thickness between the two variants.

Anyway, regarding the rest of this I don't really feel that the standard seamaster professional needs to be a lot thinner. I would actually prefer a solid case back, but I definitely don't want a flat Crystal on this reference or on the heritage. To re-clarify my stance, I think that the conversations over thickness are overblown to some degree, this last post was more for information purposes
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The Seiko is in an entirely different design class, follows an entirely different design philosophy and exhibits but a single solution to the helium gas issue. I can only imagine the lamentations today if Omega had designed a similar huge watch in the 1980s and people watched it getting larger, and larger as premium features and materials were added over the decades. 0. 1mm, 0.5mm, lol! Can you imagine! The HEV was a design choice, a necessary one given the engineering and design constraints that Omega was operating under at the time.
Quite right.
The wart is redundant in the the context of this day and age.
Let seiko do what they will their way and Rolex can keep their (redundant tech automatic HEV) and market the shit out of it as they will.
That leaves Omega to go their own way with it all.
 
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I do agree but don’t think that the PO is desperate at all. The old PO was a cult watch for men with thicker wrists. Omega wants a 300 desk diver and a deep/proprof ridiculous. The 600m is a class that sits in the middle. It is tougher and better than the 300s but wearable as a daily wearer. The PO is a new range from 2005 and has no heritage. The new PO is the best ever as it is much more wearable . It will never sell as much as the cheaper 300, but I predict it will sell much more then the old PO. Rolex fundamentally changed the deep sea and went from 40mm to 43mm and no one cried. Omega has done the opposite and shrunk. A much better idea. I think the style of the new PO will be around much longer then the old PO
Yes Rolex did change from 40 mm Subs and Sea-Dwellers to 43 for the DSSD.
We need to remember that the DSSD was not evolutionary, but was rather revolutionary.
They opened the way for a Rolex diver with creamic bezel(iirc), they pioneered what may be described as the top of it's class Glidelock, they intoduced a unique design of a Titanium Caseback, also the Nitrogen alloyed Ringlock and a double domed crystal.
It was not just an upscale, it was much more than that all in one package that was wearable and arguably more wearable than it's size and weight would suggest.

Lets not forget, Rolex upscaled the 40 mm Sea-Dweller by making it considerably thicker and kept the original depth rating after they had introduced the DSSD.
They basically did a Planet Ocean on it.
It didn't sell particularly well from what i could see although it was only made for a very short time.
 
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The grand-feu ceramic bezel on the summer blue Heritage has the exact same bezel dimensions as the standard aluminum variant on the regular heritage. There is no increase in thickness between the two variants.

Anyway, regarding the rest of this I don't really feel that the standard seamaster professional needs to be a lot thinner. I would actually prefer a solid case back, but I definitely don't want a flat Crystal on this reference or on the heritage. To re-clarify my stance, I think that the conversations over thickness are overblown to some degree, this last post was more for information purposes
Perhaps it should be thinned down if possible.
After all, people will inevitably cross shop it with date and no date Subs.

Also i see the gen 4 PO as more of a competitor to the no date Sub when we look at specs and price.
And the PO is more interesting with more variety on offer.
 
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The grand-feu ceramic bezel on the summer blue Heritage has the exact same bezel dimensions as the standard aluminum variant on the regular heritage. There is no increase in thickness between the two variants.

Anyway, regarding the rest of this I don't really feel that the standard seamaster professional needs to be a lot thinner. I would actually prefer a solid case back, but I definitely don't want a flat Crystal on this reference or on the heritage. To re-clarify my stance, I think that the conversations over thickness are overblown to some degree, this last post was more for information purposes
I haven't measured an SMP insert directly. I'm mostly surmising, judging, and deducting.

I, too prefer a solid case back. I think most are reacting to the current SMP design, more than rhe "thickness" so we agree there.
 
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Patiently waiting.

I sure hope that Omega don't take too many cues from the new PO bracelet for the next gen 300 - the level of polish (especially on the clasp) will ensure that the bracelet of any desk diver is banged up in no time at all.
 
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I try the new PO against mine Nekton. Feels a little smaller, but what it is really different and much smaller is the lug to lug. The new PO is interesting, can´t say I love it, because it is so different that needs more visits to the OB.
It is good IMO the thickness reduction, no date, no He valve and the small lug to lug (that was really impressive). Doubtful about the new lugs, were very sharp at the ends, you can feel them as razors!..
Do not like the endlink and the shinny bracelet.
I hope a new SM300 will be smaller (41mm was perfect) and thinner, below 13mm...at least.