NO seller is protected.
Really?
Getting funds without having to worry about bad credit cards, rubber or forged checks?
Yes, there are some conditions on both buyer and seller. It's not perfect.
Find me a better method, other than cash, face-to-face, at the police department.
Only way I will buy is PayPal with a credit card. Put the cost in your deal. If the whole deal makes sense, I'll do it.
Otherwise, I'm out.
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I am not deputing PayPal but there are big risks with sellers don't you agree?
Buying is fine. What I'm saying is there is a great deal of risk when selling.. Look around the net and you will see all the horror stories of reverse charges sellers get even with legit items they sent. Would you sell a 20k item only to get someone say item is not as stated and PP will usually side with the buyer leaving the seller out of luck.. I am not deputing PayPal but there are big risks with sellers don't you agree?
Not sure whether that was directed at me, but if it was, I consider this to be just a discussion about PayPal and not anything remotely offensive.
Your over thinking it. Everyone has to "log in" to their Paypal account in order to use the account. Much to do about nothing. No worries, carry on.
I think even after all this ebay and paypal favour the buyer. I wouldn't trust a Paypal txn. Too many horror stories.
I sold a perfect condition DSLR camera - the buyer took it on holiday (somewhere dusty) came back and said there was a bad pixel. Even though I could prove that there was not (blue sky photo taken beforehand), ebay favoured the buyer and the camera was returned to me and I had to get it fully cleaned at my cost! Was there a dead pixel? No it was a spot of dust on the sensor!!
I was furious and cited that ebay were in the wrong - they ended up paying me the money back that they refunded to the buyer. It was clear they'd abused the camera (dusty and dented) and that it was perfect when it left me (dated pictures proving the camera left in in perfect condition). EBay told me that this was the only time I would get my money back from them due to a decision THEY made! - at which point I told them to go to hell.
That's unusual. Usually, if the seller can show that the buyer already used the item, they'll rule in the seller's favor. It sounds like a supervisor did that after the initial reviewer mistakenly ruled against you. Once he took it on vacation, any issue about "pixels" immediately became moot as the basis for a dispute. The buyer has an obligation to inspect and test the item before using it (beyond simple testing); once he takes it on vacation, it's his camera, regardless of any other issues (except for being a counterfeit).
About 8 years ago, I sold the Omega 1998 bracelet that came with my used 1861 Speedy. It was in excellent-but-worn condition and very clean to the naked eye. The buyer was initially very happy with it and specifically said that he'd installed it onto his watch. Then, he started complaining that it was "filthy," first in emails, and then publicly on WUS to pressure me into issuing a partial refund. When I refused, he filed a PayPal dispute seeking a full refund. In response, I simply linked PayPal to the actual thread on WUS where the buyer admitted to using the item by installing it on his watch and also to cleaning it with a toothbrush. PayPal immediately ruled in my favor because by wearing and cleaning it, the buyer had, thereby, taken ownership and lost any right to dispute the transaction. I think all you would have had to do was share the emails where he admitted taking it on vacation and they'd have ruled in your favor in the first place.
True..But what about the people who receive the item and it is what you sent yet the buyer say's its a New kids on the block watch. What then?
In general, the buyer filing the dispute always has the burden of proof. If it's just his word vs. yours, they'd also probably consider both of your transaction histories, disputes, feedback, history of changed user IDs, etc. I've mentioned this before, but when I received the package of my Grail from a seller in Turkey with only 2 transactions, I took the precaution of videotaping my unsealing the package, precisely in case it contained a rock or a Timex instead of the watch I purchased. IMO, most of the potential issues with eBay are avoidable by being careful in how you describe items, what questions you ask prior to purchase, and what precautions you take to comply with the TOS necessary for protection eligibility...and anticipating what kinds of evidence you might need in the worst-case scenario that you can imagine.
Most of the time that never means anything to PP. Buyer is king.
What's the basis for your conclusion? Early in my eBay history, I lost a dispute or two as a buyer and I won the only dispute against me as a seller.
I really don't want to get into it..It's a long standing reality..It's just my opinion along many others.
Here is one of many threads to look over
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...g-sellers-buyers-manipulate-system-protection
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
I don't mind 'advertising' on ebay but I will do everything to avoid the sale through ebay as they are greedy and don't take pragmatic decisions even though I provided evidence.
