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tyrantlizardrex tyrantlizardrex
In what reality are 3, or 4 even an option?

You complain about paying retail on an Omega, but are willing to pay Hodinkee hype tax for a Rolex, because you just can’t wait?

I’m not going to call this thread stupid, but it certainly doesn’t make any sense.
It really depends on one’s budget....
From what I gather he really wants a Rolex...
 
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It really depends on one’s budget....
From what I gather he really wants a Rolex...

I don’t see budget coming into it... if the OP really wants a Rolex, why set fire to more money than he was worried about losing on a Seamaster 300, as the premium on getting a Rolex from the grey market, than just getting on the waiting list?

Insanity.
 
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Heck if that’s your reasoning why would anyone buy a new car? Believe it or not most people buy watches to keep for a long time not flip it in 6 months like some *cough*most*cough* on this forum. Even most Rolex’s contrary to belief lose their value as soon as you walk out the dealer.
Why DO people buy new cars?
 
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We all buy what we buy for our own reasons, and that is what he will do in the end. I see in this thread plenty of evidence of what I knew already: People are different and value different things in different ways. I really don't understand why anyone asks this kind of advice from others when they always buy what they are going to buy in the end. It's almost like choosing a spouse based on your friend's advice. Who cares what they think? (I do believe there is a much better chance of a Daytona or Sub increasing in value.)
 
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tyrantlizardrex tyrantlizardrex
I don’t see budget coming into it... if the OP really wants a Rolex, why set fire to more money than he was worried about losing on a Seamaster 300, as the premium on getting a Rolex from the grey market, than just getting on the waiting list?

Insanity.

Didn't you read my first post? I wanted a rolex in the first place.
Worrying about losing value on a timepiece doesn't mean I don't have the budget for a more expensive watch!

In my area, all the dealers I talked to said they don't have a waiting list!

I believe it's all about how much you've bought from this AD/jeweler in the past, or how much you'll buy from them.
All the hard to get reference goes to VIP and their existing clients.

Not going to get the 300m. Great watch but I can't stand that helium release warts

I decided on getting a 126622 Rhodium.

Thanks to everyone who gave their opinion to my questions. I appreciate it.
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Exactly. All the frustration didn't cost him a penny. :whipped:

Silly lizard. You simply didn't read closely enough. It was all just a big misunderstanding.👍
 
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A grey market Rolex with an impatience premium on top is not a more expensive watch.

It’s a ripoff.

And I did read your original post... where you had decided to look at the Seamaster 300:

moga moga
I’m looking to buy a Omega Seamaster 300m as an alternative to the Rolex 114060 which is never in stock from an AD.

If you didn’t like the design, why were you looking?

I find it fascinating that you’re not prepared to lose a bit of the retail value of a Seamaster, but are willing to pay a significant premium over retail to get a Rolex right this instant.

You do you.

I’m done trying to understand the new money impulsiveness of modern Rolex buyers.
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Apparently, I was just overthinking it.

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Almost half the world - over three billion people - live on less than $2.50 a day.

Funny how the headline is about rich people 😗
 
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I don’t see budget coming into it... if the OP really wants a Rolex, why set fire to more money than he was worried about losing on a Seamaster 300, as the premium on getting a Rolex from the grey market, than just getting on the waiting list?

Insanity.
Because, I guess, he really wants a Rolex and needs some opinions to justify it...
Of course I could be wrong but when the issue for buying a watch is mainly the reselling value and not quality, movement enjoyment etc, one wonders
To be fair, I also do consider the resale value but it is not the main factor.
Just to add up to the conversation a 300m with sword hands sells today more than its original value...
Cheers
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Mr. Archer, I see you are a watchmaker. This topic has been pretty well covered. Here's a detour. I don't work on complications, and I just re-staffed an old Hamilton yesterday, which got me thinking. I was wondering if you received a cal 861 with a broken staff, would you re-staff the balance or install an entire new balance assembly? Or if the jewel was lost from the roller table? Pallet jewels lost or damaged? I thought maybe with newer, more complicated watches, those doing the service might opt to swap entire parts, rather than deal with the hassle of repairing balances or installing jewels in pallet or roller table. God knows I'd install complete balances if I could find them for the older watches.
 
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Swissmister Swissmister
I was wondering if you received a cal 861 with a broken staff, would you re-staff the balance or install an entire new balance assembly? Or if the jewel was lost from the roller table? Pallet jewels lost or damaged?

There’s really no choice, as Omega doesn’t sell any of the parts, so there’s no balance staff available to purchase to restaff the balance. The only thing they sell is a balance complete.

It’s an unfortunate dumbing down of the watchmaking profession, and it’s only getting worse over time...
 
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But it must save some time and aggravation. You have enough to do taking down the top side of a chronograph along with the rest of the movement. I respect what you do. One of these days I'll dive into one. Maybe start with a Landeron or Valjoux. What would you recommend for a first chronograph?
 
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But it must save some time and aggravation. You have enough to do taking down the top side of a chronograph along with the rest of the movement. I respect what you do. One of these days I'll dive into one. Maybe start with a Landeron or Valjoux. What would you recommend for a first chronograph?

Certainly for people who don't have the skills to do otherwise, replacing whole assemblies makes the most sense, but it is incredibly wasteful.

As for working on a chronograph, they aren't difficult to work on for the most part, just more parts to assemble and lubricate. Start with the simplest one you can find - a Valjoux 7733 or something like that would be a good start.
 
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moga moga
I decided on getting a 126622 Rhodium.

Nice choice! Congrats.

(edited out 10,000 words of my opinion of the Rolex and Omega markets that no one cares about)
 
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