New Longines Heritage Classic Chronograph 1946

scapa · Jan 6, 2020

Not sure if this has been posted -- looks like a nice piece. Not a Longines expert so unsure of historical precedents but the white dial/blued hands combo reminds me of some of the marine chronos from Stowa and others. Below are a few pix from Revolution Watch and details below.

EDIT: Original link went poof -- here's the new one:

https://www.revolution.watch/introducing-the-longines-heritage-classic-chronograph-1946/

DirtyDozen12 · Jan 6, 2020

Another puzzling heritage model. Breguet numerals are not typical of late 13ZN dials. And why choose 1946 in the first place? Surely Longines' more iconic 13ZN designs came earlier. There were a few neat references being produced around that time (e.g. 5699, 5161, 5415) but none are alluded to in this heritage watch. I am also struck by details like the inverted "30" in the outer track, and the white tone (almost looks like enamel), as these were not typical of 1946 dials either. Anyway, I am sure it will be very popular.

NT931 · Jan 6, 2020

I like the hands, but wonder if it might end up being thick (13-14mm) like some of their other chronos.

Pun · Jan 6, 2020

This link is not operational anymore. What size is the dial of this beauty?

Radiumpassion · Jan 6, 2020

40mm if I remember correctly, and probably ten feet high🙄

Pun · Jan 6, 2020

I liked their big eye chronograph as well but every time I tried on my wrist it appeared very high on wrist. Longines must reduce the thickness of its watches and they would compete with the best in industry.

alphabeta81 · Jan 6, 2020

1920s dial, 1930s counterpoise, 1940s something (not sure what but it is called Heritage 1946). Aesthetically overall it looks nice, but to a Longines purist, it's a hodgepodge.

scapa · Jan 6, 2020

Another article with a few additional details (and some weak advertorial copy):

https://www.esquire.com/uk/style/watches/a30415390/longines-heritage-classic-chronograph-1946/

DirtyDozen12 · Jan 6, 2020

alphabeta81
1920s dial, 1930s counterpoise, 1940s something (not sure what but it is called Heritage 1946). Aesthetically overall it looks nice, but to a Longines purist, it's a hodgepodge.

Well said.

For those who are interested, below is a typical 13.33Z (invoiced 1926) followed by an also typical ref. 5415 (circa 1948) courtesy of @khmt2.

scapa · Jan 6, 2020

Pun
I liked their big eye chronograph as well but every time I tried on my wrist it appeared very high on wrist. Longines must reduce the thickness of its watches and they would compete with the best in industry.

IDK. I find the BigEye to wear very well, and my wrist is a bit under 7". Longines could definitely work on this design aspect -- as could Omega -- but I haven't found any of these recent releases to be dealbreakers in the way that, say, a 9300-based Speedmaster was for me. That thing was like a small observatory on my wrist, despite its superb quality.

Pun · Jan 7, 2020

scapa
IDK. I find the BigEye to wear very well, and my wrist is a bit under 7". Longines could definitely work on this design aspect -- as could Omega -- but I haven't found any of these recent releases to be dealbreakers in the way that, say, a 9300-based Speedmaster was for me. That thing was like a small observatory on my wrist, despite its superb quality.

Dear, the quality and size was not an issue. It is the height of the watch, that is, little more than 14.5 mm. And that is thicker than Speedmaster Moonwatch. It's more prominent due to smaller size than Speedmaster Moonwatch.
There are two chronograph watches, both iconic, that I couldn't buy due to height; Longines Big Eye and Heuer Monaco. Both are very beautiful otherwise.

oinkitt · Jan 7, 2020

Pun
Dear, the quality and size was not an issue. It is the height of the watch, that is, little more than 14.5 mm. And that is thicker than Speedmaster Moonwatch. It's more prominent due to smaller size than Speedmaster Moonwatch.
There are two chronograph watches, both iconic, that I couldn't buy due to height; Longines Big Eye and Heuer Monaco. Both are very beautiful otherwise.

Same here, I liked the look of the big eye but couldn't tolerate the thickness.

timex · Jan 7, 2020

Kudo's for Longines for launching more heritage pieces in a smartwatch dominated world. Now take it up a notch Longines! Stepped bezel back gilt dial 13zn please. Pronto! ;-)

cchen · Jan 7, 2020

T timex
Kudo's for Longines for launching more heritage pieces in a smartwatch dominated world. Now take it up a notch Longines! Stepped bezel back gilt dial 13zn please. Pronto! ;-)

Just curious - I believe I read somewhere that the reproduce the 13zn today the watch would have to retail for around $10k. Would you be willing to pay that?

DirtyDozen12 · Jan 7, 2020

Here is the "original" watch that inspired the Heritage model. Incorrect crown, mismatched hands, and an abysmal redial. Hopefully the irony goes without saying.

https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/01/lo...ic-chronograph-1946-review.html#!&gid=1&pid=2

DirtyDozen12 · Jan 7, 2020

I wonder if the original is a reference 5041? Here are two examples with original dials and crowns for comparison. Also note the characteristic, chronograph second hand on the second example. I think that the first example has a replacement. Funnily enough, it almost looks as though the second example has the same, mismatched hour/minute hands as the example from Longines. But it should be noted that the minute hand extends past the outer track, which suggests that it is not original.

https://www.carsandwatches.com/watches/longines-13zn-chrono-with-pulsations-dial

Radiumpassion · Jan 8, 2020

Almost looks like the hand combination we see in this thread, but mismatched
the other way😀

https://omegaforums.net/threads/my-grandfathers-1938-13zn-mono-pusher.107001/

Larry S · Jan 8, 2020

cchen
Just curious - I believe I read somewhere that the reproduce the 13zn today the watch would have to retail for around $10k. Would you be willing to pay that?

See the price of the new 321 Speedmaster for correlation.

Larry S · Jan 8, 2020

Last April I wandered into a Longines AD in NYC. I was unimpressed by these heritage watches in the metal. I agree, if you are doing vintage homage, do it right. I think Baltic and a few others do this well. So do folks like VC.

NT931 · Jan 8, 2020

Radiumpassion
40mm if I remember correctly, and probably ten feet high🙄

Looks like height is 12mm according to SJX
https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/01/longines-heritage-classic-chronograph-1946-review.html
but I suspect that's the case height... plus crystal, probably 13mm at least from the pic below from SJX.

New Longines Heritage Classic Chronograph 1946

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