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  1. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Hi all, could you guys help me to identify this watch. I looked everywhere, couldn't find exactly the same watch.
    Looks like it is a Seamaster Automatic from late 50`s early 60`s, perhaps. I don`t have this watch on me yet, thus I don`t have any good pictures of it.
    I would really appreciate your help guys.
     
  2. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Here is an actual pics
     
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  3. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 17, 2016

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    490 or 491
     
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  4. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 17, 2016

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    Educated guess
     
  5. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Thanks BartH, this is the watch I am trying to get. Just trying to get more info about it. The gentleman told me it is a solid gold case. Did they even made these out of solid gold, most likely a gold filled one. How do they stamp gold cases? I know for the gold filled they would have something like : 14KGF stamp. Also, should it be a screw down crown?
     
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  7. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    I guess I found something:
    Seamaster
    Gents' leather strap
    Reference
    CK 2848
    International collection
    1956
    Movement
    Type: Automatic (mechanical)
    Caliber number: 490 / 491
    Cal. 490
    Created in 1955, 17 jewels
    Cal. 491
    Created in 1955, 19 jewels

    Functions
    Subsecond
    Case
    Stainless steel
    Case back
    Press-in
    Full metal
    Dial
    Luminous, with hand-rivetted gold hour markers and "Dauphine" hands.
    Crystal
    Armoured hesalite
    Bracelet
    Leather
    Water resistance
    30 meters
    This watch may have existed with different dials.
    More product information
    Case : round (34 mm diameter), press-in case back with ìO-ringî gasket.
    For leather straps of 18 mm lug-size
    International Collection : 1956-1962
    Swiss retail price (1959) : CHF 230.-
    Also available in 14K goldcap with SS case back (KO 2848, CHF 300.-), 14K solid gold (OJ 2848, CHF 575.-), 18K solid gold (OT 2848, CHF 630.-).
    The outside case back was often engraved with Ref. 2846 and 2848 as both of these watch styles were produced with the same case back.
     
  8. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Good timing. Thanks again guys. If everything would look good, this is going to be my first omega vintage watch!
     
  9. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Feb 17, 2016

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    If you don't mind me asking, how much do they want for that?
     
  10. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    $450
     
  11. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    I think it is a good price for this watch, hopefully everything is the way he describes.And if it is a gold filled, I will probably negotiate the price down.
     
  12. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 17, 2016

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    Based on the markings on the back of the lugs, which look similar as on my old Seamaster ref. 2846-2848, I reckon it's a solid (14k) gold one.

    With that, $450 would be a bargain.

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  13. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 17, 2016

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    And yes as your Omega data base listing illustrates, they made both 18k and 14k solid gold back then, as well as gold filled and stainless steel. The gold fill by Omega is actually a thick outer layer of gold. Your picture also shows hallmark stamps on the the lugs.
     
  14. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    I will let you know later today, how I made up. Thanks for the clues gentlemen.
     
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    Good luck.
     
  16. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 17, 2016

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    No question in my mind, this is a solid gold watch. I can't tell whether it is 14K or 18K from the pictures provided. At $450, it's a no-brainier.

    Good luck with the purchase.
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  17. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Here I am.Got the watch, looks like it is 18k gold,overall condition is good.Little dent on the case at 6 o'clock, few scratches on the back of the case (looks like someone made attempt to open the case back without using the proper tool) and little scratch on the glass right above the dent on the case.It came with the leather strap(not original, made by Guess).The case back has engraving in Portuguese :03.01.1959 For 25 years with Brahma to F.F.Balin from branch director F.Fundo.Here is the story behind the scene:Father of the guy who sold the watch, was working for Brazilian beer brewing company for 25 years, when he received this watch for his 25th anniversary with the company. This guy and his family moved to the states about 10 months ago and they needed money.He didn't speak any English and he used his son as a translator. I could've knock another 50-70 dollars out, but I've already got a good deal, plus felt bad for the guy, so I ended up giving him $450.End of the story:I have a nice watch and guy and his family got some money.
     
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  18. Uniqez Feb 17, 2016

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    Didn't open the case yet, I need to find my case knife.I will post a picture of the movement condition, as soon as I open it.
     
  19. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 18, 2016

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    You'll need more than just a case knife if you don't want to repeat the marks already there.

    <from an old post of mine>

    WARNING!
    If you are technically inept or have Homer Simpson coordination, read no further, take it to a trusted watchmaker.

    1. Remove the bracelet first.
    2. Get a small block of soft wood and drill a 10mm hole big enough to sit the crown in.
    3. Hold the watch upright on the wood with your left hand with the crown in the hole.
    4. Use a Gem razor blade* and gently insert it into the seam opposite the crown.
    5. Use a gentle seesaw movement to work the blade into the seam and slowly move around the top part of the case.

    WARNING - DON'T PRY....ever.... (as stipulated by a professional watchmaker @Archer )

    6. When you see a gap opening, get a case knife or even a fine table knife and continue to work the gap.

    It should start to open from the top side and you can use a thicker blade to pop it off.

    Good Luck with it.

    Cheers
    Jim

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  20. Uniqez Feb 18, 2016

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    Wow, thanks a lot Jim.I will try it today. I don't know why they were trying to open the watch, the scratches are minor, but it is what it is.I found my case knife, but I looked at the watch and found no gap between the case back and the actual case (only a little gap right next to the crown ).Now, your post makes perfect sense to me. I will try it today.