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whitestripes
·This is amazing! Haven't been around the forums awhile but would love a 1039 flat style solid link bracelet for my speedy. Or a 1450. Either way, the vintage bracelet market prices are ridiculous. God speed to you!
Need Input for Speedmaster Bracelet Design
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Uncle Seiko
·So, I have a question about the FOIS and my Beads of Rice. I just got mine the other day and I noticed the sides are polished, and I am wondering if I should make the BOR reversed, i.e. polished on the sides and brushed down the middle. I did this for the Longines Legend Diver and it worked well. It would have looked odd if the case went from polished to brushed where it connected. What say you?
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JwRosenthal
·I think your “U” clasp would be ideal and should also be available for the BOR. I won’t buy a bracelet with a modern 2 latch-clasp for a vintage watch, they just don’t look or feel right.
The things that most modern aftermarket bracelet companies have gotten horribly wrong with trying to do a vintage bracelet is they don’t get the taper right (needs to be extreme-20/16, 19/15), and they are too chunky and heavy- vintage bracelets are light and slim- it’s part of the experience (along with the jingle of hollow endlinks- the soundtrack of our people).
Also, the 19mm flatlink would appeal to the SM120 crowd as well- not sure what the difference is with lug fit. The flatlink (can’t remember the model) was also available in 18mm around 1967- paired in catalogs for the technical dialed Seamaster’s. I believe it was the same bracelet as for the 19mm Speedy’s, but with different endlinks- could be wrong about that. I think if you offered the 18/19 model with both endlinks available you will open yourself up to a whole other market for us non- 300 Seamaster collectors.
The things that most modern aftermarket bracelet companies have gotten horribly wrong with trying to do a vintage bracelet is they don’t get the taper right (needs to be extreme-20/16, 19/15), and they are too chunky and heavy- vintage bracelets are light and slim- it’s part of the experience (along with the jingle of hollow endlinks- the soundtrack of our people).
Also, the 19mm flatlink would appeal to the SM120 crowd as well- not sure what the difference is with lug fit. The flatlink (can’t remember the model) was also available in 18mm around 1967- paired in catalogs for the technical dialed Seamaster’s. I believe it was the same bracelet as for the 19mm Speedy’s, but with different endlinks- could be wrong about that. I think if you offered the 18/19 model with both endlinks available you will open yourself up to a whole other market for us non- 300 Seamaster collectors.
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omegamike
·I understand the comments about the clasp. I like the secondary clasp (or whatever the hell its called) on my Seiko bracelets but I prefer a standard, simple clasp on Speedmasters.
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omegamike
·Inspiration for the clasp could be take from the 50s anniversary watches as mentionned above
picture from swisswatchesblog
and
pics from Fratellowatches
+1 for a flat link here !
and great job on the BoR !
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JwRosenthal
·And I see no issue having another aftermarket option for our vintage Omega’s, how many of us use JB Champion or Kreisler bracelets.
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jsducote
·It would have looked odd if the case went from polished to brushed where it connected. What say you?
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wagudc
·I
Agreed. I would like a bracelet that appears as if it were an aftermarket bracelet from the 60's, not something trying to be an exact replica of an Omega bracelet. I want something that is harmonious with the watch and the period, but will be quality and reasonably priced.
And I see no issue having another aftermarket option for our vintage Omega’s, how many of us use JB Champion or Kreisler bracelets.
Agreed. I would like a bracelet that appears as if it were an aftermarket bracelet from the 60's, not something trying to be an exact replica of an Omega bracelet. I want something that is harmonious with the watch and the period, but will be quality and reasonably priced.
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JwRosenthal
·
Catalog pic of the flatlink for 18mm models.
19mm JB Champion flatlink on SM120
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VetPsychWars
·So, I have a question about the FOIS and my Beads of Rice. I just got mine the other day and I noticed the sides are polished, and I am wondering if I should make the BOR reversed, i.e. polished on the sides and brushed down the middle. I did this for the Longines Legend Diver and it worked well. It would have looked odd if the case went from polished to brushed where it connected. What say you?
I would personally see what Omega did before running too many of one type, as I suspect most people will want as Omega-like as they can get, which is what I want.
Tom
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odin.grey
·Here's a vote for a modern 1039/516... totally classic! Am I right in thinking that single bracelet would fit speedmaster pros as well as the seamaster 300 (165.024/166.024) and thus modern "Watchco" type builds?
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JwRosenthal
·I’m not an engineer but I would think a single flatlink style bracelet with a removable top link (the one before the endlinks) would allow for a bracelet that could accommodate 18/19 endlinks, then add the extra top link and have a 20mm endlink. Basically you could have it all with an endlink set.
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befobe
·Will you have different versions of the bracelet for each watch, or the same bracelet with different endlinks? The 1039 would be the appropriate model for a 145.022 Speedmaster. The last link in the 1035 would be two narrow to transition to 20mm lugs. The table provided by @uwsearch in the thread I linked earlier shows the measurements.
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bikehomero
·I like your ideas about the new retro bracelets and think I will buy one ore two (as well for my SM 300 Watchco). Would like to see a shark mesh with seatbelt clasp on the aftermarket as well.
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eugeneandresson
·Oh thanks for this helpful listing! By the way, do you know the difference between 808 and 809 endlinks (for the 1450...)?
One is slightly thicker than the other...as one was intended for the ‘holy grail’ Speedmaster (809 if memory serves) and the other for the regular Speedmaster (808 if memory serves) . There are a ton of threads on it here...just search the OF using google and you will find the details.
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Uncle Seiko
·and they are too chunky and heavy- vintage bracelets are light and slim- it’s part of the experience (along with the jingle of hollow endlinks- the soundtrack of our people).
HA ha ha ha. I literally lol'd on this one.
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Kraymehr
·@Uncle Seiko Whats the rough duration it takes to get this going / up for sale? We won't hold you to it, but you've definitely got us excited...
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Uncle Seiko
·K Kraymehr@Uncle Seiko Whats the rough duration it takes to get this going / up for sale? We won't hold you to it, but you've definitely got us excited...
I would plan on it being about 6 months. It all depends on how many revisions, but that is a good estimate. Could be sooner, but we'll see.
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JwRosenthal
·I would plan on it being about 6 months. It all depends on how many revisions, but that is a good estimate. Could be sooner, but we'll see.
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Uncle Seiko
·I will be looking for a couple of guys to give me their input once I have the prototype completed (located in US, preferably).
