Need Input for Speedmaster Bracelet Design

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I hope so, I ordered 19mm flat link bracelet last night, and just placed a new order for 20mm end links.

I have the 19mm beads of rice,

 
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Question: are the 19 & 20 mm bracelets the same, but with different end links?

Ie - can I use the 19mm bracelet on a moon watch with 20mm lug width by using the 20mm end links

Or do I need the 20mm model for moon watch and 19mm for FOIS

thanks!

Same bracelet, you can just buy the end-links and swap.
 
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Question: are the 19 & 20 mm bracelets the same, but with different end links?

Ie - can I use the 19mm bracelet on a moon watch with 20mm lug width by using the 20mm end links

Or do I need the 20mm model for moon watch and 19mm for FOIS

thanks!
Have just pinged Larry asking him this exact question.

Would provide a lot of options if we can purchase both endlinks - if you can swap em out that is.
As far as I have been told by US, they are the same bracelet with different sizes endlinks, just like the Holzer.
19mm
20mm

Same bracelet
 
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Sweet - I just took another look at the site. Ordered an additional set of 19mm endlinks, to swap out for the 20s on my Original order.
Easy.
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Same bracelet, you can just buy the end-links and swap.

That’s awesome. I ordered both so will email you about adding extra end links to the order.
 
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Sweet - I just took another look at the site. Ordered the 19mm endlinks.
Easy.
I said I was gonna too but then I completely forgot. Oh well haha. 20mm will have to suffice
 
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I said I was gonna too but then I completely forgot. Oh well haha. 20mm will have to suffice
You can order additional links... very affordable too!!
 
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Another happy member of the Speedmaster-Holzer club...

You did the polished- a man after my own heart- classic combo.
 
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And my 2 Holzers are now permanently on their watches, the 20mm on the Tissot Chrono and the 19 on my SM120. It’s actually a better fit on the 120 than the JB Champion Flatlink I had on there.
120’s have long been orphaned for bracelets options (and the factory ones are often clapped out and stupidly priced) so this is an awesome option for us 120 owners.

If the endlinks of the incoming Flatlink fit the same may as the Holzer it may be a tough choice.
 
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I have received my 1171 today. Generally good quality.

One suggestion for @@Uncle Seiko, the under side of the end link is truly, and unnecessarily sharp. The edge touching the lug is like razor blade sharp, I can cut myself easily with that. It is incredibly easy to leave a mark in the lug with that level of sharpness, I don't even want to imagine what long term use would do to it. I have protective tapes sticking to the lug to prevent it but it won't last against these sharp edges. It makes me hesitant on using these bracelet for long term.

Would highly recommend you have the factory machine it or sand it to smooth it out a bit before putting on the market.
 
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I have received my 1171 today. Generally good quality.

One suggestion for @@Uncle Seiko, the under side of the end link is truly, and unnecessarily sharp. The edge touching the lug is like razor blade sharp, I can cut myself easily with that. It is incredibly easy to leave a mark in the lug with that level of sharpness, I don't even want to imagine what long term use would do to it. I have protective tapes sticking to the lug to prevent it but it won't last against these sharp edges. It makes me hesitant on using these bracelet for long term.

Would highly recommend you have the factory machine it or sand it to smooth it out a bit before putting on the market.
I second this.

I received my 19mm BOR yesterday (fortunately sooner than expected), and the finishing of the top of the end link is quite good, but the edge that touches the case and the small ears that go against the back of the lugs are indeed very sharp. Endlinks will always mark the case or the back of the lugs eventually, but it is true that these parts should be better finished from the factory, they look like how they'd come straight from the stamping process. I smoothed and de-burred them with grit 240 sandpaper before installation.

Overall I like the bracelet. The finishing quality is very good. I would have expected pin/collars for the removable links instead of the split pins that are more common to cheap bracelets, but it still feels secure enough.
I like that the bracelet is very light and, as expected, extremely comfortable.
Some writing on the blades of the clasp would have been a nice touch (like on the President and Holzer). I know it means nothing, but just "stainless steel" gives a cheap feeling.

Good quality overall, and it really looks great on my CK Pulsemeter, and the fit of the endliks to the shape of the lugs is perfect (you need to manipulate the endlinks a bit, but this is expected for the non-SELs).
I found it complicated to install with the provided springbars, but using the original Omega bars recommended for bracelet (slightly shorter than the ones for straps) it was very easy..

And the mandatory pics.

 
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Had a pleasant surprise in the mail today -- the new flat-link bracelet! Wasn't expecting it until next week, so I'm stoked to have this for the weekend. See some quick snapshots below. Had no problem fitting the end links on this one. Didn't have to fiddle with them at all and the springbars popped in with out much fuss.

It's a lot thinner than the Holzer or BoR, but I like that.

 
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Had a pleasant surprise in the mail today -- the new flat-link bracelet! Wasn't expecting it until next week, so I'm stoked to have this for the weekend. See some quick snapshots below. Had no problem fitting the end links on this one. Didn't have to fiddle with them at all and the springbars popped in with out much fuss.

It's a lot thinner than the Holzer or BoR, but I like that.

Looks really great! Can’t wait for mine to arrive.
 
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Mine should aarrive tomorrow and then I can see how it fits to my (WatchCo) Seamaster 300. I have an Omega clasp cover ready for it!
 
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I placed two orders on the same day, one for the bracelet, and one for another Tropic strap...of course just the strap came today....thank you USPS.
 
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You can order additional links... very affordable too!!
That's what I told myself I was gonna do (order the 19mm endlinks with a 20mm bracelet) My comment was that I forgot to do just that.
 
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Had a pleasant surprise in the mail today -- the new flat-link bracelet! Wasn't expecting it until next week, so I'm stoked to have this for the weekend. See some quick snapshots below. Had no problem fitting the end links on this one. Didn't have to fiddle with them at all and the springbars popped in with out much fuss.

It's a lot thinner than the Holzer or BoR, but I like that.


Looks really nice! I have to wait till Monday though 😡
 
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I placed two orders on the same day, one for the bracelet, and one for another Tropic strap...of course just the strap came today....thank you USPS.

When I sent the Tropic the Flat Link wasn't here yet, so they are not to blame for that one. 😉
 
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Got my flatlink today and had to play with it asap. The quality is perfect as I've come to expect from the worlds greatest uncle 😁. Its a shame but I like this flatlink more than my 50th. The taper is less extreme which looks better IMO. The fact that you can buy 8 of these for the cost of the 50th doesn't hurt either 😗 I quickly attached a genuine clasp cover to this one (big thanks to @SkunkPrince for the cover)

Heres a couple shots on my daily wearer (excuse the scratches and smudges) Because I have the need to tinker all the time, the endlink at 12 o'clock is the 50th solid endlink and the one at 6 o'clock is Uncle S's hollow endlink. Both fit perfect on the bracelet. If you're an SM300 owner and prefer solid links then you have an option (although it will probably cost you if they are even available without the bracelet)