Just to mention I had my brothers cream dial Daytona sent in for a full service recently
Just to mention I had my brothers cream dial Daytona sent in for a full service recently, it looked amazing the colour was very rich compared to my white Daytona. Rolex noted dial needed replacing, I declined. More back and forth and they say that they can’t service the watch without replacing the dial, I asked how and why that was the case l, after a bit of a wait I get told the dial surface had separated from the dial, I still have the detailed pre service photos and find that very hard to believe, the independent who had taken it apart a few weeks earlier and declined the job on the basis that it needed Rolex parts he couldn’t source agreed the dial was fine, just cream. Rolex didn’t want it going back cream, they won in the end and now it’s getting replaced, and my brother is paying a lot of his own money to fix a defect in that batch of Daytona dials around 2002 that he was perfectly content with keeping.
I sent my 16800 to Kings Hill a couple of weeks ago and they insisted the dial was "water damaged". My watch does not have water damage but there is a slight crackling of the dial surface making it look matte which in my opinion improves the overall look of a 35 year old watch. After some back and forth they finally agreed to service it without a replacement dial subject to the addition of a "disclaimer" to preclude damage resulting from the dial from a warranty claim. I am more than happy to agree to this. I had to make it VERY clear they that do not refinish the case. Fingers crossed... In the 1990's I never had this issue even with dials that showed slight signs of aging. I cant wait for its return!!!!!
One reason why you never ever send a vintage Rolex to an AD for service.
I got my second hand Milgauss in 2015. Its the black dial/clear crystal version.
Over the 5 years I have owned it the dial has moved from black-adjacent, to a distinctly dark slate grey. In other words, as it gets older its turning grey. It is hard to photograph.
I have seen more extreme examples reported in other forums. These are not mine or my photos but it shows where mine is headed:
It brings up a few questions for me
1. I want to keep it all original but it is moving away from the watch I bought and liked very much. I am not crazy about the orange grey combo but replacing the dial seems like a step too far as the second hand is also fading at its own rate and a new dial would look jarring...which then leads to replacing the second hand...soon it will be an horological Ship of Theseus. What are your thoughts on conservation vs restoration in this case where the core of the colour values of the watch design are no longer in place?
2. Is this patina?
3.If this is patina, would it still be patina for another brand?
Thanks for your thoughts. And a gratuitous shot of mine at Wellington, FL a few years ago where the dial is no longer black
I sent my 16800 to Kings Hill a couple of weeks ago and they insisted the dial was "water damaged". My watch does not have water damage but there is a slight crackling of the dial surface making it look matte which in my opinion improves the overall look of a 35 year old watch. After some back and forth they finally agreed to service it without a replacement dial subject to the addition of a "disclaimer" to preclude damage resulting from the dial from a warranty claim. I am more than happy to agree to this. I had to make it VERY clear they that do not refinish the case. Fingers crossed... In the 1990's I never had this issue even with dials that showed slight signs of aging. I cant wait for its return!!!!!
I sent my 16800 to Kings Hill a couple of weeks ago and they insisted the dial was "water damaged". My watch does not have water damage but there is a slight crackling of the dial surface making it look matte which in my opinion improves the overall look of a 35 year old watch. After some back and forth they finally agreed to service it without a replacement dial subject to the addition of a "disclaimer" to preclude damage resulting from the dial from a warranty claim. I am more than happy to agree to this. I had to make it VERY clear they that do not refinish the case. Fingers crossed... In the 1990's I never had this issue even with dials that showed slight signs of aging. I cant wait for its return!!!!!
So how did your watch turn out?
Here is another one that was for sale recently in France.
[- VENDU -] Rolex Milgauss Faded dial - 7900€
posté par CharlieHP, 29.01.2021, 08:41
(Modifié par CharlieHP le 16.03.2021, 18:29)
MARQUE : Rolex
MODELE : 116400
ANNEE : 2009
Etat général : Bon état
Je vous propose une très rare Rolex Milgauss réf 116400, série V de 2009 en full set.
Les premières cadrans peints.
La particularité d’une minorité de série V fond noir est que le cadran peint s’éclaircit pour devenir d’un magnifique gris/bleu.
Celle-ci s’est éclaircie naturellement sur ces 2 premières années.
Je précise que la couleur du cadran est totalement uniforme, ce sont des reflets sur les photos qui
peuvent laisser penser le contraire.
D’après mes recherches, je n’ai trouvé que 3 cas similaires au monde d’où la rareté de ce phénomène qui est peut être dû à un défaut de peinture à la base comme les célèbres cadrans « tropical » Une montre unique, pour sur un futur collector!
Pour finir, elle est française, achetée à Paris. Jamais polie, elle a été portée tous les jours, elle vient donc avec toutes ses micro rayures d’usage. J’ai préféré la laisser dans son « jus » mais un léger polissage peut être fait (coût en sus).
Elle fonctionne parfaitement avec une amplitude de 280 et est totalement étanche.
Visible sur Paris.
Premier contact par mp
