My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.

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In the 1960's, with the success of the of the Seamaster 300, 3rd generation divers, the 165.024 and 166.024, Omega began their series of "baby" divers, the SM120s. Cheaper, Smaller and lighter, 37mm as opposed to the 41mm SM300, the SM120s were initially produced in 4 references. Unlike the SM300 which were only automatic, manual movements were offered as well. 31mm ladies sizes too, (I don't have any of these but be careful as some sellers neglect to mention they are selling the tiny size!!)


THE FOUR REFERENCES:
135.027 Manual Movement, No Date, Caliber 601, 611
136.027 Manual Movement, with Date, Caliber 613
165.027 Auto Movement, No Date, Caliber 552
166.027 Auto Movement, with Date, Cailber 565

Below are pics of my SM120's. Most I think are fairly nice EXCEPT THE LAST EXAMPLE WHICH IS A BOGUS KNOCKOFF AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED!

I hope this is informative and corrections and comments are always welcome.

Ref 135.027
All 4 references appear to share the same case, 5.5mm crown, hands and matte bezel. The caseback Seahorse engraving appears to be the same on all 4 references as well.


Casebacks on the 135.027 and 136.027 are flat. Seahorse is lightly engraved as shown.


All original legitimate cases have notches at the 3 and the 9. This notch may be missing on bogus examples.


136.027



165.027 For me, the hardest of the 4 to source. Dial now includes "Automatic". Note the TT location on the dial is slightly different from the 135s


Caseback is now domed to make room for the movement rotor.


166.027s



THIS IS THE BOGUS 166.027!! It's plentiful, it's cheap. This was the first SM120 I bought. My mistake cost $500 before I realized there was a difference. Other than a Caliber 565 movement taken from another Omega, it's all bad
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Glossy bezel, wrong 4, different bezel font. Hands too short, Dial fonts and layout (Automatic is compressed). Black date on white background from the borrowed movement.


Caseback seamonster is incorrect. Engraving is too deep. Crown too small.



No case notch at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock.
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Thanks for sharing Gemini, you must have an entire wing of your house dedicated solely to your watch collection! So do you have more Speedmasters or more Seamasters?
 
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Great post and thanks for sharing. A key point you mentioned for detecting fakes is the depth of the engraving on the back. According to AJTT the case back markings were chemically engraved and hence should be relatively shallow. Therefore these markings should be carefully scrutinized. Markings that are too deep and/or inconsistent with wear, machining marks, etc., should raise a flag.
 
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Very informative (and timely post for me) Gemini, I have been looking at these recently, thank you.
 
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Thanks to OP for the fantastic writeup on the 120s.
Is one on the 300s forthcoming perchance? 馃榾
 
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Any no date SM120's out there?
 
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Very informative (and timely post for me) Gemini, I have been looking at these recently, thank you.

Un-timely for me 馃槈 Bought me a Seamster 120 earlier today, so this thread was just hours late.
Fortunately, I've done my homework, and this helped me confirm I boghut a legit watch (Not that I was worried... 馃)
 
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Great info, wish I had known it all before I bought my 120. I was lucky nonetheless, though I sold the piece to make room in my collection. Thanks for the pics and write up!
 
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I hope this is informative and corrections and comments are always welcome.
Thansk so much for posting this! Very informative!
 
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something seems off with the dial/font on this one, correct?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ome...27-cal-550-Men-36mm-Diver-Watch-/291728577182

I think the dial is a 165.027 legit dial. Everything else is not. Hands too short, glossy wrong bezel, 166.027 caseback is the wrong reference and appears to have a bogus seamonster engraving which means the entire case is as well.
 
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I think the dial is a 165.027 legit dial. Everything else is not. Hands too short, glossy wrong bezel, 166.027 caseback is the wrong reference and appears to have a bogus seamonster engraving which means the entire case is as well.

so i was right for all the wrong reasons. at least, the beginnings of a lesson learned. that's why i hang around this forum-wealth of knowledge to soak in. 馃榾