Moonwatch power dies when chrono is running

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You do realize that you have to wind up fully, don’t you? That sounds very basic, but nowhere in the thread have you described winding it fully...
Well obviously I have wound it fully, not quite sure what kind of person would take a two gran watch out of a drawer, give it a couple of shakes, then assume its broken. You may take comfort from imagining a world where people like that draw breath, it makes me shudder. to each their own...[/QUOTE]
I shudder too. Glad you’re aware.
Stranger things have been posted on this forum....
 
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Well obviously I have wound it fully, not quite sure what kind of person would take a two gran watch out of a drawer, give it a couple of shakes, then assume its broken. You may take comfort from imagining a world where people like that draw breath, it makes me shudder. to each their own...
Well he wrote that because people have posted on OF in the past complaining about the reserve time, and its turned out they were not fully winding the watch.
 
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Thanks all for the responses, ALL of them. I'm grateful.
So the speedy will be going back to Omega with a note from me expressing my disappointment that it has developed a fault within a couple of years. Should I wear it in the shower? Sounds like a million dollar question. My take on that is hell yeah - I should be able to go surfing every day with it on, if thats my lifestyle. It may be a can of worms, but to my mind a watch that is waterproof should be waterproof? I'm not suggesting I should be able to use the chrono functions while its wet, but I feel it should be immune otherwise?
NB I've just ordered a Dan Henry 1970. That's an actual dive watch, maybe that will survive the extremes of a daily shower lol.
 
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Thanks all for the responses, ALL of them. I'm grateful.
So the speedy will be going back to Omega with a note from me expressing my disappointment that it has developed a fault within a couple of years. Should I wear it in the shower? Sounds like a million dollar question. My take on that is hell yeah - I should be able to go surfing every day with it on, if thats my lifestyle. It may be a can of worms, but to my mind a watch that is waterproof should be waterproof? I'm not suggesting I should be able to use the chrono functions while its wet, but I feel it should be immune otherwise?
NB I've just ordered a Dan Henry 1970. That's an actual dive watch, maybe that will survive the extremes of a daily shower lol.

Problem is the pushers can take a side hit and loose all WR... also if you do regularly submerge any watch you should pressure test it once a year.
 
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I don’t shower with a watch on. Nothing to do with water leakage. I just prefer not to wear a watch when showering. I’ll jump in a pool with a watch though and not worry.
 
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NB I've just ordered a Dan Henry 1970. That's an actual dive watch, maybe that will survive the extremes of a daily shower lol.

I would say the water is not the problem, is the soapy water that will eventually find its way in. At least that's what I always thought, maybe I'm wrong 😕.
 
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Does no one have an issue with this?

No
 
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Just reporting back in as I am delighted!
Omega suggested I include a letter with the speedy explaining it's reliability has been something of an issue.
They phoned me last week and will do a full service - it will be back within six weeks (I actually thought they said it would be a 'restoration' but that doesn't make sense, maybe they just said 'reassembly' - I was on holiday at the time by the pool (Where I only wore my Gshock) and they kinda took me by surprise!)
Anyway, really pleased with Omega here. I'll have no hesitation now sending in my Seamaster for a fix now - power only works a few minutes, but has never been serviced in over ten years, so looking forward to giving it some love, too!)

Anyway, great stuff.
 
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Wearing an Omega Speedmaster in the shower.

Does no one have an issue with this?

Yep!

Omega bracelets are made of stainless steel. The same stuff they make knives and scissors out of! A band of stainless steel waving about on the end of a 'bollock soaping' arm... in close proximity to the aforementioned items is a needless risk.
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With 329 posts on the OMB, you’ve been around long enough that I am surprised you haven’t discovered the topic of the advisability of wearing your Speedmaster in water. The subject has been discussed here, exhaustively. Respondents are about equally split on whether a Speedmaster is suited to that kind of wear. Anyway, good luck!
 
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Wearing an Omega Speedmaster in the shower.



Yep!

Omega bracelets are made of stainless steel. The same stuff they make knives and scissors out of! A band of stainless steel waving about on the end of a 'bollock soaping' arm... in close proximity to the aforementioned items is a needless risk.
WTF? lol
 
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Wearing an Omega Speedmaster in the shower.



Yep!

Omega bracelets are made of stainless steel. The same stuff they make knives and scissors out of! A band of stainless steel waving about on the end of a 'bollock soaping' arm... in close proximity to the aforementioned items is a needless risk.
Strictly speaking no. Kitchen stuffs are mostly made of SS304 or 304L. Omega as are most other watch Brands with stainless steel is a higher grade SS316L.
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Strictly speaking no. Kitchen stuffs are mostly made of SS304 or 304L. Omega as are most other watch Brands with stainless steel is a higher grade SS316L.

That's what I love about this forum. There's always something new to learn.
Now Eric.... I take my hat off to your technical knowledge of Stainless Steel and thankyou for the correction.😀
 
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Strictly speaking no. Kitchen stuffs are mostly made of SS304 or 304L. Omega as are most other watch Brands with stainless steel is a higher grade SS316L.

And the reason for that is that 316L contains molybdenum, 304L doesn’t.

Meaning that 316L is more corrosion resistant and is also more expensive
 
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That's what I love about this forum. There's always something new to learn.
Now Eric.... I take my hat off to your technical knowledge of Stainless Steel and thankyou for the correction.😀

Omega uses


SAE 316L stainless steel

SAE 316L grade stainless steel is the second most common austenitic stainless steel after 304. Its primary alloying constituents after iron, are chromium (between 16–18%), nickel(10–12%) and molybdenum (2–3%). The addition of molybdenum provides greater corrosion resistance than 304, with respect to localized corrosive attack by chlorides and to general corrosion by reducing acids, such as sulfuric acid.[1]316L grade is the low carbon version of 316 stainless steel.

It is commonly used in chemical and petrochemical industry, in food processing, pharmaceutical equipment, medical devices[2], in potable water[3][4], wastewater treatment[5], in marine applications[6] and architectural applications near the seashore or in urban areas.[7][8]


Rolex uses

SAE 904L stainless steel


904L is an austenitic stainless steel. In comparison to 316L, its molybdenum addition gives it superior resistance to localized attack (pitting and crevice corrosion) by chlorides and greater resistance reducing acids and in particular its copper addition gives it useful corrosion resistance to all concentrations of sulphuric acid. Its high alloying content also gives it greater resistance to chloride stress corrosion cracking, but it is still susceptible. Its low carbon content makes it resistant to sensitization by welding and which prevents intergranular corrosion.[1][2][3][4]

It has applications in piping systems, pollution control equipment, heat exchangers, and bleaching systems.[5]

In 1985 Rolex became the first wristwatch manufacturer to utilize 904L grade steel in its watches.[6] Rolex chose to use this variety of steel because it takes a higher polish than other grades of steel and provides greater corrosion resistance, though it does not machine as well and requires specialized equipment to be properly modified into the required shapes.



So Rolex watches are not made of any super steel like the marketing claims. Just a touch more molybdenum than 316L
 
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Omega uses


SAE 316L stainless steel

SAE 316L grade stainless steel is the second most common austenitic stainless steel after 304. Its primary alloying constituents after iron, are chromium (between 16–18%), nickel(10–12%) and molybdenum (2–3%). The addition of molybdenum provides greater corrosion resistance than 304, with respect to localized corrosive attack by chlorides and to general corrosion by reducing acids, such as sulfuric acid.[1]316L grade is the low carbon version of 316 stainless steel.

It is commonly used in chemical and petrochemical industry, in food processing, pharmaceutical equipment, medical devices[2], in potable water[3][4], wastewater treatment[5], in marine applications[6] and architectural applications near the seashore or in urban areas.[7][8]


Rolex uses

SAE 904L stainless steel


904L is an austenitic stainless steel. In comparison to 316L, its molybdenum addition gives it superior resistance to localized attack (pitting and crevice corrosion) by chlorides and greater resistance reducing acids and in particular its copper addition gives it useful corrosion resistance to all concentrations of sulphuric acid. Its high alloying content also gives it greater resistance to chloride stress corrosion cracking, but it is still susceptible. Its low carbon content makes it resistant to sensitization by welding and which prevents intergranular corrosion.[1][2][3][4]

It has applications in piping systems, pollution control equipment, heat exchangers, and bleaching systems.[5]

In 1985 Rolex became the first wristwatch manufacturer to utilize 904L grade steel in its watches.[6] Rolex chose to use this variety of steel because it takes a higher polish than other grades of steel and provides greater corrosion resistance, though it does not machine as well and requires specialized equipment to be properly modified into the required shapes.



So Rolex watches are not made of any super steel like the marketing claims. Just a touch more molybdenum than 316L

I feel compelled to make a correction or two if I may?

Firstly, 316 is indeed classified as an Austenetic SS as is 904.
However 316 SS (otherwise commonly referred to as "Marine Grade" by the prolitariat) is by far the most commonly available Austenetic SS.

Secondly, 304 SS is in actual fact classified as a Martinsetic SS which naturally has less corrosion resistance than 316.

For further clarity Austenetic SS is non-magnetic at normal temps where as 304 is somewhat magnetic.

If one has seen 316 eaten out right through the guts of the material when utilized at normal temperatures, one would appreciate the advantages of 904 over 316. Just as 316 has advantages over 304 in marine environments.
Hense the widely held view that 904 is regarded as and deservedly marketed as a "super alloy".

There are more than enough 316 SS watches out there that have been condemned in terms of water resistance over a good many decades because of case back corrosion.
To date as far as i'm aware none have been reported to be condemned with 904 SS.
 
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I wore mine everyday! Air, land and sea. After almost 3 years, it finally got moisture inside. Honestly, It did hurt me inside a little. To see my pride and joy in this condition. But, I got to enjoy many memories with it. In for service and still waiting to get it back.

Though, the last time the watch touched water was when I was swimming at least 4 months back. Didn’t notice the moisture till I drove to Vegas. Possible lower atmospheric pressures up in the mountains brought out the condensation?
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I feel compelled to make a correction or two if I may?

Firstly, 316 is indeed classified as an Austenetic SS as is 904.
However 316 SS (otherwise commonly referred to as "Marine Grade" by the prolitariat) is by far the most commonly available Austenetic SS.

Secondly, 304 SS is in actual fact classified as a Martinsetic SS which naturally has less corrosion resistance than 316.

For further clarity Austenetic SS is non-magnetic at normal temps where as 304 is somewhat magnetic.

If one has seen 316 eaten out right through the guts of the material when utilized at normal temperatures, one would appreciate the advantages of 904 over 316. Just as 316 has advantages over 304 in marine environments.
Hense the widely held view that 904 is regarded as and deservedly marketed as a "super alloy".

There are more than enough 316 SS watches out there that have been condemned in terms of water resistance over a good many decades because of case back corrosion.
To date as far as i'm aware none have been reported to be condemned with 904 SS.

Same steel just a bit more Molybdenum and you hit the nail on the head with Marketed.

Both have great watch case capabilities 904l is a little more corrosion resistant and polishes a bit better.

You want to see great Stainless Steels head over to any knife forum and read a few steel junkie threads.

Click this link and your head will spin

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/06/24/h1-steel-how-it-works/