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Minerva Madness ? | Lot 52 at Phillips GWA8 last Saturday

  1. chronoboy64 Nov 12, 2018

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    Hi OF friends,
    I followed the auction an Saturday on the livestream and especially Lot 52 got my attention because I have a quite similar watch in my boxes.

    The watch was hammered at 48k CHF, that’s 60k CHF including buyers premium. I was very surprised by the high bidding on this watch, which is a stunning 46mm pilots watch fitted by the great 19-9 CH chronograph movement.

    I have an ca. 5 year older version of this with a 46mm case (ex crown) with hinged caseback and my case and movement numbers are also quite earlier than the Phillips piece. And my watch IMO has the correct subdial hands by contrast to the Phillips.

    So I bought mine by occasion from a very old man for a very few k EUR two years ago. He told me a lot about the original owner, who was a pilot of „Deutsche Luftwaffe“ before and during WW2. As the watch looked very original with stunning tropical dial and I decided to buy it.

    I know that two examples were auctioned at Christies in 2009 and 2012 each for more than 10k CHF that time. So I had a good fealing when I bought mine.

    Now let the pics talk and any comment very appriciated. Thanks !
    Thanks Hajo

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    My watch

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  2. LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG Nov 12, 2018

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    The Zenith Cairelli that traded for 62.5 chf during their start-stop-reset auction >2 years ago might be a useful analogy.
     
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  3. chronoboy64 Nov 12, 2018

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    I like to add two pics of the beautiful movement
    Thanks for looking !
    Best Hajo

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  4. LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG Nov 12, 2018

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    By the by, it’s lovely!
    I missed out on one a few years back.
    Congrats!
     
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  5. nicola1960 Nov 13, 2018

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    Potresti dirmi il numero seriale del movimento del tuo orologio ?

    Grazie.:)

    Can you tell me the serial number of the movement of your chronograph ?
     
  6. chronoboy64 Nov 13, 2018

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    Can you tell me the serial number of the movement of your chronograph ?[/QUOTE]

    Hi,
    the movement no. of my watch is 1.497.xxx. For what reason do you ask ?
    I would be happy for any further information you have about this model here or via DM.
    Thanks !
     
  7. nicola1960 Nov 13, 2018

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  8. chronoboy64 Nov 13, 2018

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    That I really a great research, huge thanks for the link :thumbsup:
    So my watch matches the 1938-1939 case and movement numbers quite well IMO.
    The two auctioned pieces at Christies were:
    2012: case 468.983 movement 1.544.930 and
    2009: case 468.958 movement 1.563.149.
    Both were stated to be from ca. 1940, which seems also quite correct for me.
    The case and movement numbers of the Phillips example are a bit confusing for me, but I am not an expert (as you).
    Best Hajo
     
  9. nicola1960 Nov 14, 2018

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    Thank you very much.:)

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  10. chronoboy64 Nov 14, 2018

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    Wow, thanks for sharing this :thumbsup: