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Marks on Speedmaster FOIS case from Forstner end links

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Greetings all. About a year and a half ago, I decided to swap out the OEM leather strap on my Speedmaster FOIS for the Forstner flat link bracelet. Today I took the bracelet off with a view to possibly going back to the strap. To my dismay, I found that the end links have left marks on the case 🙁
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Whilst I like the bracelet and have found it super comfortable to wear, this development has left me feeling a bit concerned. Has anyone else experienced the same thing? How have you dealt with it? Will these marks come out with a bit of Silvo metal polish given that they're superficial? Thanks in advance for your responses.
 
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DoctorEvil DoctorEvil
Greetings all. About a year and a half ago, I decided to swap out the OEM leather strap on my Speedmaster FOIS for the Forstner flat link bracelet. Today I took the bracelet off with a view to possibly going back to the strap. To my dismay, I found that the end links have left marks on the case 🙁
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Whilst I like the bracelet and have found it super comfortable to wear, this development has left me feeling a bit concerned. Has anyone else experienced the same thing? How have you dealt with it? Will these marks come out with a bit of Silvo metal polish given that they're superficial? Thanks in advance for your responses.

One idea is to polish the ends of the bracelet where it interfaces with the case, which might make for less future scratching.
 
Donn Chambers
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Could be the end links, could be grit getting in between the end links and case. I’ve had the same level of scratches using OEM bracelets on Omega and other brands of watches.

if you wear a watch, it’s gonna get scratches on it, and the inside and back of the lugs are exposed to lots of grit that gets trapped.
 
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M'Bob M'Bob
One idea is to polish the ends of the bracelet where it interfaces with the case, which might make for less future scratching.

Yep -- I sanded mine down lightly, and popped a small piece of very thin 3M automotive protector tape between the lugs.

I'm not generally put off by earned scrapes on a watch, but previous experience with another aftermarket bracelet suggested caution.

OP, I'm sorry about you've just found on your FOIS. Those scratches don't look too deep and should polish out nicely.

Just out of interest, and because I have several Forstners and can't remember which is which, were those the hollow or solid end links?
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Yep -- I sanded mine down lightly, and popped a small piece of very thin 3M automotive protector tape between the lugs.

I'm not generally put off by earned scrapes on a watch, but previous experience with another aftermarket bracelet suggested caution.

OP, I'm sorry about you've just found on your FOIS. Those scratches don't look too deep and should polish out nicely.

Just out of interest, and because I have several Forstners and can't remember which is which, were those the hollow or solid end links?
These were the solid end links.
 
DoctorEvil
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Thanks everyone for your responses and tips. Just want to post an update.
I ordered some Cape Cod cloths via mail and it just arrived today. Unfortunately, after at least 15-20 minutes of polishing I wasn't able to get the scratches off. It might be a bit less obvious but they're still there. Looks like the Forstner flat link will be a permanent fixture on my FOIS now.
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Thanks everyone for your responses and tips. Just want to post an update.
I ordered some Cape Cod cloths via mail and it just arrived today. Unfortunately, after at least 15-20 minutes of polishing I wasn't able to get the scratches off. It might be a bit less obvious but they're still there. Looks like the Forstner flat link will be a permanent fixture on my FOIS now.
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Those cloths are great, but probably not aggressive enough.

If you really want to remove those scratches, you could try something like Simichrome. But, since you’ll be removing material, and no one will see it anyway, maybe best to just leave it.
 
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Those cloths are great, but probably not aggressive enough.

If you really want to remove those scratches, you could try something like Simichrome. But, since you’ll be removing material, and no one will see it anyway, maybe best to just leave it.

Agree. Not worth it, IMO, especially since you've done an excellent job -- those scratches look way, way better than they did. Well done.
 
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Honest question but why do the scratches at that location bother you so much?

I feel everything in your photos even pre-Cape Code polish to be typical wear and tear on a watch once it goes on a wrist. It's akin to getting upset the tires on your new car are scratched once it leaves the lot. Omega is all about high polish on its straight lug models, if it's really gonna be an issue, you may want to stick with oyster cases.
 
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Honest question but why do the scratches at that location bother you so much?

I feel everything in your photos even pre-Cape Code polish to be typical wear and tear on a watch once it goes on a wrist. (...)

Because it shows when you are wearing the watch on leather... Here is what typical wear and tear should look like between the lugs:

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15 years old Sinn bought on steel bracelet with well made SELs. No gashes on the case.

Vintage Rolex with stamped end links are quite bad in this regard, but you are supposed to wear them on bracelet only 🙄
 
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Happened to be wearing my FOiS on a strap today after having it on the Forster bracelet for much of the summer.

yes, if you look REALLY closely from the side, you can see scratches. But who really notices that? if scratches on your SS watch really bother you that much, just put it in a safe and wear a ceramic watch.


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Because it shows when you are wearing the watch on leather... Here is what typical wear and tear should look like between the lugs:


15 years old Sinn bought on steel bracelet with well made SELs. No gashes on the case.

Vintage Rolex with stamped end links are quite bad in this regard, but you are supposed to wear them on bracelet only 🙄

I feel this is where the notions of something being a "sports watch" and a 'luxury item' come to an impasse.

I don't condone people abusing their watches, but it's tough for me to grasp that folks want to adopt the tool watch aesthetic but still let tiny, purely cosmetic scratches that literarily nobody but the wearer will notice live rent-free in their head.

Not taking shots at OP here, I'm just surprised that these types of things bother folks so much! Nearly every part on an Omega straight lug case except the case flank is brought up to a high polish. That type of treatment to stainless steel is bound to show imperfections as soon as you spend a day with it on the wrist.
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Almost certainly will happen with OEM bracelets aswell. It's metal on metal.
 
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I don't condone people abusing their watches, but it's tough for me to grasp that folks want to adopt the tool watch aesthetic but still let tiny, purely cosmetic scratches that literarily nobody but the wearer will notice live rent-free in their head.

To each his own... Me, it's plonking more than beer money in a mechanical toy (a FOIS has not been a serious tool watch for decades now) and not caring about the little details and cosmetics: this I don't compute.

I actually like the SUG logo between the lugs of my Sinn, it is seen clearly on a leather strap even if it is a bit like an easter egg, and I was relieved after buying it and removing its bracelet that it was intact. Details, details... ::stirthepot::
 
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Honest question but why do the scratches at that location bother you so much?

I feel everything in your photos even pre-Cape Code polish to be typical wear and tear on a watch once it goes on a wrist. It's akin to getting upset the tires on your new car are scratched once it leaves the lot. Omega is all about high polish on its straight lug models, if it's really gonna be an issue, you may want to stick with oyster cases.
Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with your comparison. I'm more than OK with scratches on my car tyres and I regard that as normal wear and tear. But if the end links of the bracelet had a better fit, you'd think that it wouldn't leave such prominent marks. Maybe I'm just being fussy but I think that it would be noticeable even with a casual glance. In any case I'm resigned to keeping the bracelet on now. Saves me from having to switch straps every time I change my belt and shoe colour 😁
 
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Happened to be wearing my FOiS on a strap today after having it on the Forster bracelet for much of the summer.

yes, if you look REALLY closely from the side, you can see scratches. But who really notices that? if scratches on your SS watch really bother you that much, just put it in a safe and wear a ceramic watch.


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Your scratches don't seem quite as bad as mine. I think you got off lightly.
 
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I feel this is where the notions of something being a "sports watch" and a 'luxury item' come to an impasse.

I don't condone people abusing their watches, but it's tough for me to grasp that folks want to adopt the tool watch aesthetic but still let tiny, purely cosmetic scratches that literarily nobody but the wearer will notice live rent-free in their head.

Not taking shots at OP here, I'm just surprised that these types of things bother folks so much! Nearly every part on an Omega straight lug case except the case flank is brought up to a high polish. That type of treatment to stainless steel is bound to show imperfections as soon as you spend a day with it on the wrist.

My Casio is a tool watch…
 
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