Would this be a good example of a speedmaster to purchase? How off are they on the price?
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It looks OK, not the best I have ever seen though a new crystal would help a lot. Some of the plots look a little degraded but not too bad. The bezel has been replaced, on the plus side it looks to have an original 1039 bracelet and these are worth around US$600 - 700. No movement picture, always a worry. Personally if I were to spend that amount of money I would wait and try to find one with an applied logo.

 

Too expensive. Plus, a seller with 1 feedback...

 

It's a redialled transitional. That's what I think,

as such it is a potential restoration, but it would need (in my opinion) a new AML dial and a DON bezel.

its massively overpriced.

i would want to see movement and inside caseback before making an offer. Without seeing those the price is $2000.

the seller is a bit optimistic and perhaps naive. Or at worst a crook, but is want to see the best in people. As long as I am not handing over money, then I have to be ready for the worst.

 

..... and that one feedback was as a buyer.

 

Totally agree it is overpriced by at least $1,000-1,400. Better examples are out there!

Albeit the stretch links look tight, the bracelet appears to have only 20 links. This means it would be short about 5 links, which means 2-3 of the non stretch links may be missing as are 3 of the stretch links. For me, that means it's only a $300-400 bracelet.

According to the Moonwatch Only book, if it's a 145.022 69, it could have come with either a DON or the type bezel pictured. I've always assumed this was another transitional case part.

Spacefruit, please point out to me what tips you off that it's been redialed. I'm getting better, but refinished dials have always been a little hard for me to spot.

 

Rather than a redialled '68 transitional is it not more likely to be a '69 with the original dial and possibly a replaced bezel?

Agree that the price is extremely optimistic.

 

Hold your horses! I am not saying it is redialled. I am saying that if the discussion is precipitated that's not a good sign.....

personally I don't think it has, it's just poor enough for someone to ask the question

 

serial is declared at 26m

 

I think the seller may have made a mistake there. Rather than the movement serial, he's referring to a number engraved on the outside of the case back so I'd be wary of accepting that as the serial without seeing a movement shot.

 

Sorry Spacefruit, I misunderstood your statement about the dial. Discussion may have been brought up in part due to poor pictures/lighting.

Serial # is confusing in seller's description "Serial Number 26271 as shown on pictures"...what pictures of movement???

The seven 145.022-69's I have owned over the last five years have had 29-32 mil serial #'s. All five of the transitional145.022-68's I have had over the same period had 27 mil serial #'s.

 

there is also a bare spring showing where the bracelet meets the clasp . that's two parts of the spring link missing. looks like a botch job with a pin holding it all together.