Looking for input on vintage Omega Seamaster... redial?

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

Hello! I hope everyone is in good health during these crazy times. I’ve recently pulled out a vintage Omega Seamaster that I’ve had for quite some time. I picked up the watch relatively inexpensively at a yard sale. The movement looks legit, it’s got the original crown and what I believe is the original crystal (with omega insignia). The caseback also appears to be original. I’m a bit curious if the dial may have been redone at some point and I was hoping to get your feedback? I’ve included a number of pictures and appreciate any input you can offer.

Thank you!

Shabbaz · Apr 11, 2020

That looks to be a redial. The font looks off, swiss is going through the marker, minutemarker at 9 is off, lume new applied (?). And I did not yet look at similar models. Did you? Enjoy the watch anyway!

X350 XJR · Apr 11, 2020

Refinished.

In addition to things already pointed out, the spacing between the applied Omega symbol and OMEGA AUTOMATIC is too wide.

mac_omega · Apr 11, 2020

It is a nice watch with a re-printed dial - unfortunately...

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

Thanks for the feedback... any idea how common this is? I ask because I’ve picked up 2 vintage Omegas locally (yard sale and local sale) and they’ve both turned out to be redone... I haven’t spent a ton on either, so I’m not so much worried about value but it seems strange that I’d go 2/2 (or maybe 0/2 is a better term) on local sales. I understand if I’m buying something from India on the auction site... but I didn’t realize they were this prevalent. Was it part of a regular service to touch up old dials? I’d much rather have a worn original than one that’s been redone.

Shabbaz · Apr 11, 2020

crcollard
Thanks for the feedback... any idea how common this is? I ask because I’ve picked up 2 vintage Omegas locally (yard sale and local sale) and they’ve both turned out to be redone... I haven’t spent a ton on either, so I’m not so much worried about value but it seems strange that I’d go 2/2 (or maybe 0/2 is a better term) on local sales. I understand if I’m buying something from India on the auction site... but I didn’t realize they were this prevalent. Was it part of a regular service to touch up old dials? I’d much rather have a worn original than one that’s been redone.

Yes. It was done regularly as part of a service. They did'nt know then that a bunch of watchnerds now would appreciate original dials.

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

Shabbaz
That looks to be a redial. The font looks off, swiss is going through the marker, minutemarker at 9 is off, lume new applied (?). And I did not yet look at similar models. Did you? Enjoy the watch anyway!

I did try to find similar models and couldn’t find one with the same text / spacing... part of the reason I came here for the expert opinion.. 😀 Thanks for the help, I guess I need to be more careful.

Shabbaz · Apr 11, 2020

crcollard
I did try to find similar models and couldn’t find one with the same text / spacing... part of the reason I came here for the expert opinion.. 😀 Thanks for the help, I guess I need to be more careful.

It's a minefield out there! But just ask here before you buy. OF will help you

wagudc · Apr 11, 2020

crcollard
Thanks for the feedback... any idea how common this is? I ask because I’ve picked up 2 vintage Omegas locally (yard sale and local sale) and they’ve both turned out to be redone... I haven’t spent a ton on either, so I’m not so much worried about value but it seems strange that I’d go 2/2 (or maybe 0/2 is a better term) on local sales. I understand if I’m buying something from India on the auction site... but I didn’t realize they were this prevalent. Was it part of a regular service to touch up old dials? I’d much rather have a worn original than one that’s been redone.

Refinishing dials was a very common practice in times past. I believe that embracing patina is a fairly recent phenomenon.

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

Shabbaz
Yes. It was done regularly as part of a service. They did'nt know then that a bunch of watchnerds now would appreciate original dials.

Thanks again for your input, good to know.

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

wagudc
Refinishing dials was a very common practice in times past. I believe that embracing patina is a fairly recent phenomenon.

Thank you, good to know, I didn’t realize this was the case but makes sense.

TraderSantiago · Apr 11, 2020

Beautiful watch, but agree that the dial is refinished.

TraderSantiago · Apr 11, 2020

I wouldn't fret, it's a very nice watch. If you are particularly bothered by it, one will probably turn up on on eBay etc. or, given that it's already redialed, find another refinisher.

crcollard · Apr 11, 2020

TraderSantiago
I wouldn't fret, it's a very nice watch. If you are particularly bothered by it, one will probably turn up on on eBay etc. or, given that it's already redialed, find another refinisher.

Thanks, I just kick myself because I feel like I should know better / be able to spot it... just need to do more research on the front end I suppose. I do appreciate the input from the forum.

Sidnos · Apr 11, 2020

crcollard
Thanks, I just kick myself because I feel like I should know better / be able to spot it... just need to do more research on the front end I suppose. I do appreciate the input from the forum.

Don’t beat yourself up mate, by no means the worst redial out there and despite of it is still a nice looking watch... 👍

VetPsychWars · Apr 11, 2020

It's still wearable.

Tom

padders · Apr 11, 2020

I am surprised we haven’t had a visitation from Captain Redial. But then maybe he doesn’t bother calling out the actual redials, that would be far too useful.

I really like the 2846, it’s my fave fat lug and I have seen worse than the OP watch.

OMEGuy · Apr 11, 2020

padders
I am surprised we haven’t had a visitation from Captain Redial. But then maybe he doesn’t bother calling out the actual redials, that would be far too useful.

I don't know what's wrong. I am keeping to state what I see. And nobody has proven I was wrong. It's more the people think I should shut my mouth.

At least this dial hasn't been redone by Teerapat.

padders · Apr 11, 2020

OMEGuy
I don't know what's wrong. I am keeping to state what I see. And nobody has proven I was wrong. It's more the people think I should shut my mouth.

At least this dial hasn't been redone by Teerapat.

A bit of insight. A good first step.

OMEGuy · Apr 11, 2020

padders
A bit of insight. A good first step.

I wonder if you're happy.

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