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Hey everyone,


I recently inherited this Omega Speedmaster Mark II from my grandfather, and I’ve been spending time learning more about it and appreciating its unique character. According to my grandfather’s memory, everything on the watch is original, and he doesn’t recall ever replacing parts or having it refinished - but as with many vintage pieces, you never know. I'm not looking to sell it; it has sentimental value and I want to care for it properly.




What I Know So Far:​


  • Model: Omega Speedmaster Mark II
  • Movement: Manual-wind Caliber 861 (I haven’t opened the case myself)
  • Dial: Racing-style dial with orange, red, and white accents on a light grey
  • Case: Brushed stainless steel, tonneau-shaped
  • Chronograph: Fully functional - start, stop, and reset all work correctly



What It Came With:​


It came in what I believe is the original “Moon box” - though unfortunately, it was empty when I received it (no papers, manuals, or extras). Still, it’s a cool piece to have alongside the watch.




What I’m Unsure About:​


- The pushers look slightly different from other Mark IIs I’ve seen online - maybe a bit taller or shaped differently? I’m curious whether these could be original, a service replacement, or something else entirely.


- The bracelet is one I haven’t seen on many other Mark IIs. It could be a lesser-seen Omega reference, or possibly a later addition. I’ll include photos of the clasp and end links - maybe someone here can help identify it?


- The racing dial is what drew me in immediately, but I’ve noticed it doesn’t quite match most of the ones I’ve seen online. I’m wondering if it’s a rarer variant, or if there's a chance it might be a re-dial.


- This one’s a big question for me. The brushing on the top of the case doesn’t seem to match the radial pattern I’ve seen on original Mark IIs - it looks more linear or horizontal, and some edges are a bit soft. Could the case have been refinished at some point?


- I haven’t opened the caseback yet. I don’t have the tools, and I’m a bit nervous about re-sealing it properly. Would you recommend having it inspected by a watchmaker?



Thanks so much in advance for your help. I’ve attached detailed photos of the dial, case top and sides, pushers, bracelet clasp, and caseback (external only). I’m new to vintage Omega, but I want to understand and preserve this piece properly - both for its watchmaking value and family history.


Best regards,
Brink
 
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take the watch as it is and sell the box

before selling the box, search information about it's value

and believe me:

you will have more fun with the watch and you will remember
many, many years, decades your "box-selling-story"
 
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take the watch as it is and sell the box

before selling the box, search information about it's value

and believe me:

you will have more fun with the watch and you will remember
many, many years, decades your "box-selling-story"
I have seen that the box alone goes for crazy amounts, but for sentimental value I think I’ll keep both. Even tho it would be a fun story 😅

Also there is nothing inside of it. So I imagine that takes a huge chunk of the sell value
 
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The box is definitely not correct for the watch, it might have been given when the watch was sold but it's not the correct box. Minor point. But it's probably worth more than the watch, even with the missing innards. Just something to keep in mind.

There definitely has been work done to the watch over its history, the case has had work done it, as noted the radial finish is no longer there, and the margins look soft. Pushers are not correct for that reference, so they have been replaced. Dial is probably original, but well faded, like it spent too many years with UV rays doing their thing to bleach it out. (My 52 year old Mark II's dial is still fairly bright with its orange and red accents, hands, too.) Center seconds hand is not correct, it should be an orange baton hand, and the hour/minute hands are incorrect as well. Mineral crystal might be a replacement, they were often changed at a service because they were prone to picking up scratches.

All in all it's a well used example, but not completely original. It has had work done on it and parts replaced with non-original parts.
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The box is definitely not correct for the watch, it might have been given when the watch was sold but it's not the correct box. Minor point. But it's probably worth more than the watch, even with the missing innards. Just something to keep in mind.

There definitely has been work done to the watch over its history, the case has had work done it, as noted the radial finish is no longer there, and the margins look soft. Pushers are not correct for that reference, so they have been replaced. Dial is probably original, but well faded, like it spent too many years with UV rays doing their thing to bleach it out. (My 52 year old Mark II's dial is still fairly bright with its orange and red accents, hands, too.) Center seconds hand is not correct, it should be an orange baton hand, and the hour/minute hands are incorrect as well. Mineral crystal might be a replacement, they were often changed at a service because they were prone to picking up scratches.

All in all it's a well used example, but not completely original. It has had work done on it and parts replaced with non-original parts.
Appreciate your reply. It really shed some light on my concerns with the watch

If I were to sell the box. Where would be a good place to do so? And how much is it worth in the condition it’s in with the missing pieces?
(Just in case you have some information on it) 😊
 
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After 197 more posts you can sell it here in the Watch Accessories thread. Otherwise EB your best bet try searching sold auctions prices but there likely will not be too many of these around. Some here will know the range however I do not. No need to rush you can keep it (protected) for a while and think about it as you research.
In meantime enjoy the watch
 
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I can't add anything to what @Eviwe said above other than that the pushers look like flightmaster pushers without their paint inlay.
 
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Oh, and that it seems to have its original crystal.
I know the crystal was replaced at one time and the replacement was an original, but it’s some time ago. Can that still be done at a reasonable price?
 
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I may, of course, be wrong, but I had read somewhere that this model was originally shipped with a crystal where the word 'Tachymetre' used a condensed font, most visibly with the letter 'C'. Again, I am probably wrong, but you do not often see the condensed version; as such, I had always considered it original.

Here are two examples for comparison: one with the condensed 'C' and one without.

 
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The Mark II crystals from Omega have varied over the years.....all genuine Omega but fonts and numbers are slightly different. The crystal is often broken when removed from the case, but they aren't that expensive. I was quoted $106 back in 2020.
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It is even worth considering keeping the box for a longer time, it won't affect you negatively for sure