Longines in the 40s...

Posts
2,399
Likes
6,935
Since this thread drifted into a 1940's Longines showcase...

 
Posts
321
Likes
841
Since this thread drifted into a 1940's Longines showcase...

What a spectaculare case, love those stepped ones. So what means "showcase"? Is is this an one and only piece? I've never seen such a kind of case and lugs in one.
 
Posts
2,399
Likes
6,935
So what means "showcase"

To show, exhibit, display...
The case is solid rose gold. I've seen only one other example of this case (picture on the web). It is model 5863 with 23M movement.
 
Posts
17
Likes
34
I have never, ever seen another square numeral Sei Tacche and in this thread there are two! Anyway, here鈥檚 mine.
 
Posts
2,804
Likes
4,882
I have never, ever seen another square numeral Sei Tacche and in this thread there are two! Anyway, here鈥檚 mine.
They're out there.

 
Posts
18
Likes
30
That is a reasonable explanation. If they broke, presumably a watch maker might have drilled out the lugs on the side that did break. So it would just be happenstance that two of the exact same watches are showing this.
That is a reasonable explanation. If they broke, presumably a watch maker might have drilled out the lugs on the side that did break. So it would just be happenstance that two of the exact same watches are showing this.
Hi Rumar89. I'm new on omegaforums and my mother language is German - sorry for possible mistakes in my English or breaking rules. But back to the "fixed bar & removable bar discussion". I can add some further information on this. I own a Longines 12.68N from 1941 in a case that is called "cassa bariletto" above. I bought it some time ago from Ebay and it came with one fixed bar and with one removeble bar. The removable bar was installed in the way you describe it by a former owner or a watch maker. This person did a pretty bad job. When drilling one of the holes he missed the exact position. But he noticed it and stopped drilling before the hole went completely througt the lug. The next try was better, the hole was drilled in the correct position completely through the lug. It is impossible that such a bad work all in all would have left the Longines company. I'm quite sure that watches with "mixed bars" have one repaired bar. So what to do with such a watch? To me this is more than what some people would call "patina" or "signs of age and use". To me it is just a bad damage. As the watch showed some more signs of damage - for example a deep scratch at the 9:00 position from unprofessional opening - I decided to have it restored carefully. A correct fixed bar was installed and all the unprofessionally drilled holes were closed. Also the deep scratch at 9:00 was filled up. This works were done by laser welding and the former holes are completely unvisible - even under strong magnification. At last the former surface structure was carefully renewed with a minimum of abrasive work to prevent loss of original substance more than absolutely necessary. I'm happy with this watch, it got back its dignity and beauty.
 
Posts
7,630
Likes
21,886
Hi Rumar89. I'm new on omegaforums and my mother language is German - sorry for possible mistakes in my English or breaking rules. But back to the "fixed bar & removable bar discussion". I can add some further information on this. I own a Longines 12.68N from 1941 in a case that is called "cassa bariletto" above. I bought it some time ago from Ebay and it came with one fixed bar and with one removeble bar. The removable bar was installed in the way you describe it by a former owner or a watch maker. This person did a pretty bad job. When drilling one of the holes he missed the exact position. But he noticed it and stopped drilling before the hole went completely througt the lug. The next try was better, the hole was drilled in the correct position completely through the lug. It is impossible that such a bad work all in all would have left the Longines company. I'm quite sure that watches with "mixed bars" have one repaired bar. So what to do with such a watch? To me this is more than what some people would call "patina" or "signs of age and use". To me it is just a bad damage. As the watch showed some more signs of damage - for example a deep scratch at the 9:00 position from unprofessional opening - I decided to have it restored carefully. A correct fixed bar was installed and all the unprofessionally drilled holes were closed. Also the deep scratch at 9:00 was filled up. This works were done by laser welding and the former holes are completely unvisible - even under strong magnification. At last the former surface structure was carefully renewed with a minimum of abrasive work to prevent loss of original substance more than absolutely necessary. I'm happy with this watch, it got back its dignity and beauty.

A very nice job for sure, and one I would personally not shy away. As a matter of fact I have seen watches sold by major dealers on the international market without any specific disclosures, and which I know have undergone some resurfacing because I have pictures from when they first appeared on the market, untouched with scratches and all.

Wand since we like pictures, what does the face of the watch lool like?
 
Posts
18
Likes
30
A very nice job for sure, and one I would personally not shy away. As a matter of fact I have seen watches sold by major dealers on the international market without any specific disclosures, and which I know have undergone some resurfacing because I have pictures from when they first appeared on the market, untouched with scratches and all.

Wand since we like pictures, what does the face of the watch lool like?
Hello Syrte, here comes the face of the watch. Due to the Longines archive it is a ref. 4589 that was sold to the Wainstabl company in Bratislava on november 6th 1941.
 
Posts
403
Likes
1,924
Fixed lug here also..1944 Longines 18k Rose Gold Ref. 5673 Cal. 37 M
 
Posts
321
Likes
841
Hi Rumar89. I'm new on omegaforums and my mother language is German - sorry for possible mistakes in my English or breaking rules. But back to the "fixed bar & removable bar discussion". I can add some further information on this. I own a Longines 12.68N from 1941 in a case that is called "cassa bariletto" above. I bought it some time ago from Ebay and it came with one fixed bar and with one removeble bar. The removable bar was installed in the way you describe it by a former owner or a watch maker. This person did a pretty bad job. When drilling one of the holes he missed the exact position. But he noticed it and stopped drilling before the hole went completely througt the lug. The next try was better, the hole was drilled in the correct position completely through the lug. It is impossible that such a bad work all in all would have left the Longines company. I'm quite sure that watches with "mixed bars" have one repaired bar. So what to do with such a watch? To me this is more than what some people would call "patina" or "signs of age and use". To me it is just a bad damage. As the watch showed some more signs of damage - for example a deep scratch at the 9:00 position from unprofessional opening - I decided to have it restored carefully. A correct fixed bar was installed and all the unprofessionally drilled holes were closed. Also the deep scratch at 9:00 was filled up. This works were done by laser welding and the former holes are completely unvisible - even under strong magnification. At last the former surface structure was carefully renewed with a minimum of abrasive work to prevent loss of original substance more than absolutely necessary. I'm happy with this watch, it got back its dignity and beauty.
Hey, welcome to the forums and a you present a wonderful watch. The case was very professional restored. Gef盲llt mir ausgesprochen gut 馃槈.
 
Posts
18
Likes
30
Hey, welcome to the forums and a you present a wonderful watch. The case was very professional restored. Gef盲llt mir ausgesprochen gut 馃槈.
Thank you for the friendly welcome! Du sprichts Deutsch
Hey, welcome to the forums and a you present a wonderful watch. The case was very professional restored. Gef盲llt mir ausgesprochen gut 馃槈.
Hi BlueHands! Thans for warm welcome. It's nice to meet somebody here, der Deutsch spricht 馃榾
 
Posts
18
Likes
30


Fixed bars on mine 35mm. Had it on the wrist while visiting Nomos at Glash眉tte last year. The lady guided our tour was surprised to see the " mother of all Nomos"


Fixed bars on mine 35mm. Had it on the wrist while visiting Nomos at Glash眉tte last year. The lady guided our tour was surprised to see the " mother of all Nomos"

A beautiful watch! @valjoux72 : Maybe the Nomos watches have some more relatives. There is a little watch company in Germany called Stowa. Scroll down their page https://www.stowa.de/Antea/ and you will find some more mothers and grandmothers of the Nomos Tangente .There are pictures from a Lange watch and from a Stowa Antea watch, both from 1937. Both look very much like today's Nomos watches. Maybe Nomos copied their Tangente-design from those watches...
As a summary it could be said that there were at least three companies (Longines, Stowa and Lange) which sold watches in "cassa barilletto"-design in the 1930s and 1940s. It would be interesting to know which company created this design at first. If someone here has a Longines "cassa barilletto" made before 1937 please let us know.
 
Posts
321
Likes
841
Thank you for the friendly welcome! Du sprichts Deutsch

Hi BlueHands! Thans for warm welcome. It's nice to meet somebody here, der Deutsch spricht 馃榾
Hi, freut mich auch sehr, macht viel Spa脽 hier im Forum!. Die Longines-Community ist sehr fachwissend und man kann sich 眉berall reinlesen bei der Vielzahl an Threads. So, enjoy and, once again, you got a beautiful watch, exact my kind of style I prefer.馃憤