Longines in the 40s...

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I have seen this case style with flat lugs referred to as a "cylinder" case.
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I must admit I haven’t inquired as to whether the drilled lugs are original on my 35mm example but why would they not be?

Yes, Syrte, there is no reason to let it go, regarding the fact if the lugs are fix or not. Case design is straight and simple, NOMOS/Glashütte has it actually in their portfolio of modern watches for the "Tangente". However Longines did it once, never mind, if it pleases you today.
 
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And mine below
I've seen @Syrte's watch in person. It's a lovely Bauhaus design. Quite envious! 😁
 
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Look at that, similar dial and case, indeed case sizes 35 mm/37,4 mm "Lunette Cubique baguette"/"Anses silette lapidées"
Ref. 4733/4734

What is that source?!
 
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What is that source?!
Source is Goldberger's huge book "Legendary watches" You find it on page 110.
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Fixed bars on mine 35mm. Had it on the wrist while visiting Nomos at Glashütte last year. The lady guided our tour was surprised to see the " mother of all Nomos"
 
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Here’s a strange sei tacche for you guys:

- Movement is unmarked, except for the serial number. I’ve never seen one of these (believe it’s a 23M) that didn’t have at least Longines engraved on the movement.
- Case is unmarked. Would expect to see the order code number on the back and Longines on the inside of the case back.

 
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I looked into it in december. the movement number indicates it was supposedly sold in 1947 to Wittnauer in the US even though there are no LXW import marks on the movement.
I have my ideas about it, but what’s clear is that the Longines historians can only call it a marriage of sorts, it’s been sitting for a few months and very overpriced given the lack of a coherent archival record.
 
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1947...makes sense.
My information comes from the Longines archive department so yes it does « make sense. »
 
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Beautiful watches and pictures. I have left a lot of mine back in Melbourne in a box for a few years.

I think I have a few from the 1940s. I shall have to take pictures the next time I am back there.
 
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Found one.

I believe it is a french market 10L. I haven't seen others like it. It doesn't say swiss at the bottom. Looking at the lettering closely, I think the dial may be original but not sure.

The indices are like a gold mirror.

I have to search the watch photography forum to work out how to post pictures that actually do the watch justice.

 
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Found one.

I believe it is a french market 10L. I haven't seen others like it. It doesn't say swiss at the bottom. Looking at the lettering closely, I think the dial may be original but not sure.

The indices are like a gold mirror.

I have to search the watch photography forum to work out how to post pictures that actually do the watch justice.

10L was a designation for the US market. If the movement is circa 23 mm and for the French market, it is likely a caliber 10.68N or 23M. Unfortunately, the dial looks to have been refinished. Apart from the more nuanced tells, the luminous hands with non-luminous dial is a convenient give away. The original dial almost certainly had radium markers.
 
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@DirtyDozen12 - Yes, that makes sense. Although I suspect that the redial was from quite a long time ago - just from the design.

Do you know why some movements are 10L and others are 10.68z while others are 10.68N?

For example, why are some called 25.19 (or whatever it is) and some 9L (or 9LT).

From what you say, it doesn't have to do with going from gilt to rhodium plated.
 
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@DirtyDozen12 - Do you know why some movements are 10L and others are 10.68z while others are 10.68N?

For example, why are some called 25.19 (or whatever it is) and some 9L (or 9LT).

10L was the designation for the American imported 10.68z movements under the Longines/Wittnauer company. Same movement with sub seconds.

10.68n is the centre-seconds variant.

The number stands for the movement size, either in lignes (e.g 9L = 9 lignes) or the equivalent diameter in millimetres (9L was a rectangular movement with dimensions of approximately 25mm x 19mm, hence designation of 25.19).

Most of this information can be gleaned from the Ranfft website (and repeats a lot of what @DirtyDozen12 said 🙄)
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I’ve been wanting a sei tacche for a while. Probably paid too much, but couldn’t say no to that dial.

 
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Longines’ heritage department is the best in the business. Huge part of why I collect the brand.

For some reason, I always think of these mid-40’s watches in terms in WW2. A month before this watch was invoiced to the US, the North Africa campaign ended with the surrender of Axis troops in Tunisia. A month (to the day) after, the Allies launched the Italian campaign with the invasion of Sicily. In the US, the most awesome military production machine the world has ever known was churning out 235 planes, 101 tanks, and 3 liberty ships per day. Did this little guy serve on one of those assembly lines? Or did it sit in a jewelry case, waiting for its eventual owner to return home from some far flung field of battle? We’ll never know the story, but IMHO it wears its years well.

 
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Longines ref. 5056 delivered to Baume & Co. in 1947. I always loved this dial variant with the brushed ring and the Roman numerals. So happy I finally found one