Longines 30CH

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I do not have photos or documentation of ref. 5981.

Another reference that comes to mind is 5971, which is a gold-plated 30CH reference. The case design of ref. 5971 differs from your watch as its bezel is sloped not stepped. Additionally, the case-backs of ref. 5971 are not gold-plated. This is consistent with gold-plated 13ZN reference 5523. Further, both ref. 5971 and 5523 have case-backs that are marked "Fond Acier Inoxydable". Though odd, I suspect that the case of your watch was plated after it left the factory.

Beyond the case, I notice a few other things. Looking at a photo of the movement (seen here: https://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=80104160), the column wheel screw is from a later 30CH movement. Also, the very worn condition of the movement (e.g., exposed brass on main bridge, missing reset hammer) does not appear to be consistent with the relatively clean condition of the dial. I have long been curious about this exact dial design, as I have seen many examples in almost perfect condition. I wonder if they could be service dials. Finally, neither of the sub-dial hands are the correct style.


" I suspect that the case of your watch was plated after it left the factory. "
The answer is in the Longines extrait of archives:



" the column wheel screw is from a later 30CH movement ":

Later movements had the writing 30CH engraced on the bridge. Mine isn't, so maybe a replacement screw?
 
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Here are pictures from the thread on O&P.

So?
It's mine.
I hope it is not forbidden to ask for an opinion even outside Italy
 
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Some SS cases are gold capped. I have a lovely Mido like that. What I find interesting is the case back, also capped? Sure looks like it left the factory that way. I wonder if perhaps there is a gap in Longines record keeping. It’s a lovely watch. I’d not mess with it.


Thank you but I need to restore it at factory original conditions
 
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I'm still not sure how a photo will help the OP remove the plating. Maybe the OP wants to know the original finishes on the various surfaces, i.e. polished/brushed? Maybe he can be more specific about what he is hoping to learn.

Yes.
My question originally was to know if someone has a pic or illustration of the Ref. 5981.
Nothing more
 
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At least we now understand better what the problem is.
But IMO what you need is not a picture, what you need is a master jeweler who can tell you if it can be done without damage. You should contact Rebecca Struthers who’s on Instagram, she and her husband are master jewelers and watchmakers and they work on watches with precious metals.

Hope it helps,
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Thank you but I need to restore it at factory original conditions
Yes.
My question originally was to know if someone has a pic or illustration of the Ref. 5981.
Nothing more
I don't think we understand how a photo will help you restore it. When you are asking for help, it can be useful to explain yourself.
 
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Have you read my opening question?
I try to know if someone has a pic or documentation for the Ref. 5981, not a help how to restore it because I already had this in Italy.
I instead need help finding the spare part N°8104 if anyone has it or knows where I can find it, thanks.
 
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Have you read my opening question?
I try to know if someone has a pic or documentation for the Ref. 5981, not a help how to restore it because I already had this in Italy.
I instead need help finding the spare part N°8104 if anyone has it or knows where I can find it, thanks.
Yes, I read your original question. You just asked for photos or documentation with no explanation whatsoever. You didn't ask about any parts. You have also mentioned multiple times that you would like to restore the case, and now you claim that it is already restored.

I am feeling that this thread is very confusing at best, and I don't think it's a language problem.
 
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Just read what I wrote. When I say " not a help to restaure it, I already had this in Italy" means that the HELP how to restaure it I had in Italy but not that I have the watch already restored!!
 
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Have you already removed the gold plating?

If you want full information on your watch, instead of an extract of archive you should send the watch to Saint Imier in order to get a certificate of authenticity, and for the price you will pay they will examine all of the available information in the archive including possibly a picture of the reference.
 
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Have you already removed the gold plating?

If you want full information on your watch, instead of an extract of archive you should send the watch to Saint Imier in order to get a certificate of authenticity, and for the price you will pay they will examine all of the available information in the archive including possibly a picture of the reference.
In addition, ask them about a restoration quote while it’s in their hands.
 
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Have you already removed the gold plating?

If you want full information on your watch, instead of an extract of archive you should send the watch to Saint Imier in order to get a certificate of authenticity, and for the price you will pay they will examine all of the available information in the archive including possibly a picture of the reference.

Not yet, I'm waiting to have the spare parts to do everything together.
I have an Extract of Archives Longines you can find the copy above
I have already asked at Longines some pics of the reference but at the moment I haven't their answer.
 
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An extract of archive is not a certificate of authenticity. It will not guarantee that the watch is entirely correct in all of its parts.
 
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An extract of archive is not a certificate of authenticity. It will not guarantee that the watch is entirely correct in all of its parts.
Yes I know, thank you
 
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" I suspect that the case of your watch was plated after it left the factory. "
The answer is in the Longines extrait of archives:
You are right, an answer was provided in the extract. However, Longines' answer is not necessarily definitive, so I wanted to offer my opinion too.
" the column wheel screw is from a later 30CH movement ":
Later movements had the writing 30CH engraced on the bridge. Mine isn't, so maybe a replacement screw?
Yes, the column wheel screw is a replacement. The correct screw should have only one slot.