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Longines 13ZN reference 3870

DirtyDozen12
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A little while ago, I made a thread on waterproof 13ZN references (https://omegaforums.net/threads/waterproof-longines-13zn-references.120287/). One reference that I did not include was 3870. This reference is relatively unusual in that it can be found with two different styles of chronograph pushers: rectangular or round. I have not seen a large number of examples with round pushers, but all seem to be from order 21'153, marked "LXW" on the balance cock, and invoiced to Longines-Wittnauer (USA) between 1941 and 1944. The case-backs of the examples with round pushers seem to be the same as those with rectangular pushers, neither have gaskets. Below are some examples for reference.

Source: Chrono24
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Source: https://www.carsandwatches.com/watches/rare-longines-13zn-waterproof-with-black-dial
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Source: https://secondtimearoundwatchco.com...ister-chronograph-stainless-steel-watch-14239
Note: This example has a refinished dial.
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Dan S
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Many thanks for sharing your research!
 
DirtyDozen12
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Thanks for sharing! A rare reference indeed.
You're welcome! It is neat to see new examples come out of the woodwork.
 
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Lxw on the cock, but what it is stand for?
How much for this reference?
 
BlueHands
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W Wswwatch
Lxw on the cock, but what it is stand for?
How much for this reference?
The movements with the LXW marks are for the american market.
 
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The movements with the LXW marks are for the american market.
Thank you so much ,
Do you know L X W , the full name is? Just curious.
 
Mark020
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LXW is the US import code for Longines
 
alphabeta81
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Here is the information I just got back from Longines about mine, which has the LXW on the movement as well. It has the same order number as the one pictured above:

"Originally, the serial number 6'072'xxx identifies a wrist-chronograph in stainless steel bearing the reference 3870 and the order number 21153. It is fitted with a Longines manual wound mechanical movement, caliber 13ZN. It was invoiced on 3 February 1944 to the Longines-Wittnauer Watch Co., INC., which was at that time our agent for the USA."
 
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alphabeta81 alphabeta81
Here is the information I just got back from Longines about mine, which has the LXW on the movement as well. It has the same order number as the one pictured above:

"Originally, the serial number 6'072'xxx identifies a wrist-chronograph in stainless steel bearing the reference 3870 and the order number 21153. It is fitted with a Longines manual wound mechanical movement, caliber 13ZN. It was invoiced on 3 February 1944 to the Longines-Wittnauer Watch Co., INC., which was at that time our agent for the USA."
Thanks for adding this information!
 
DirtyDozen12
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Good price? Is it reasonable price?
Very few ref. 3870 examples have sold publicly in the past 5 years so it is difficult to say.
 
Mark020
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Next time post the link as well…
 
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