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  1. Ko1892 Mar 23, 2015

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    Guys, I found this Longine online, the seller said it is from the 50. Can anyone give me more info on the watch (model
     
  2. Ko1892 Mar 23, 2015

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    Guys, I found this Longine online, the seller said it is from the 50. Can anyone give me more info on the watch (model, year, etc) also does the watch look all original?
    Sorry for the previous post,didn't mean to send it.
    Regards
    KO
     
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  3. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    Yes it does. I have noticed that watch – and been tempted by it – previously.

    Really a nice and uncommon example.

    Regards,

    Tony C.
     
  4. Ko1892 Mar 23, 2015

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    hello TONY,
    Thanks you for you feedback. Do you have any other info on the watch such as model, year of production,etc. As I cannot see any details on the back cap from the pictures provided, can't really search for the watch info :)
    Cheers
    KO
     
  5. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    That watch would not have had a model name. It was a high-class, obviously elegant, dress version of the various types of cases and dials used for the 30L movements. It would likely have been produced in the early '60s, and given the case and movement numbers, the historical department of Longines would be able to provide specific date of movement production and where the watch was originally sold.
     
  6. ulackfocus Mar 23, 2015

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    I'd have a second look at that dial. I think it's been refinished because the SWISS MADE is too high and too far apart given the era it was made in. I believe it should be below the 6:00 marker and the words should be much closer together. There are some very good redials of Longines out there.
     
  7. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    How could the words be any closer together given the (truncated) hour marker that sits between them?

    In any case, a rare disagreement between Dennis and I, as it looks completely original to my eye.
     
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  8. ulackfocus Mar 23, 2015

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    Well, it certainly isn't often we have different opinions for sure. We'll agree to disagree.

    My case for it being a redial: There have been plenty of dials that have SWISS MADE under wide indices, and so low on the dial that you can't see the entire words, just the top of the letters.
     
  9. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    I agree that there are plenty of dials like that, but this 6:00 marker appears to be placed lower than most. Different angle photos might be revealing and provide further hints.

    Also, I think that it is unlikely that a pearlescent dial like that, in that condition, would ever have been in need of a redial.
     
  10. Ko1892 Mar 23, 2015

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    Thank you guys, not often I see different of opinions between experts :) can't get the better images from ebay so maybe seeing the pics from the link might help

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-VINT...754aad8&pid=100012&rk=5&rkt=5&sd=351349197156Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
  11. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    I find Occam's Razor to be useful in these situations, and it also suggests originality to me. Dennis has a terrific eye, but I believe that it is highly unlikely that this is a redial.
     
  12. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 23, 2015

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    Cool how the sunburst radiates from the sub second instead of the min/hour post. Don't recall seeing that before.
    Does that affect the redial/original debate?
     
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  13. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 23, 2015

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    In my view, it does. Given its apparent excellent condition, why would a redial have been needed to begin with? Furthermore, I believe that it if far more difficult to produce convincing redials on such dials.
     
  14. ulackfocus Mar 23, 2015

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    Longines did have sunburst patterns that radiated from the date windows too. I think @LouS has a gold Ultra-Chron with that type dial.
     
  15. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 23, 2015

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    My little trick on a question like this is to find other examples of the same watch off the internet. Based on the caseback, this seems to be a Ref. 6983. Knowing that the Google knows all, sees all and tells all, he gave me this:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=longines 6983&sa=G&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=Mp8QVcG8FKfEmAXx8YLABw&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1440&bih=719#imgdii=_&imgrc=UN7hvU-voh1d0M%3A;g7DUx48CqNpxrM;http%3A%2F%2Flongines30l.com%2FImages%2F12420517_front.jpg;http%3A%2F%2Flongines30l.com%2Flongserie%2F12420517.htm;640;480

    Now one of the pictures in the 1st row is from the well known Longines 30L website:

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    http://longines30l.com/longserie/12420517.htm

    I thought the owner of this site posts here, but I really can't remember.

    Here is a blow up of another example:

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    Both dials here show the split in the words "Swiss Made" like the OP's example.

    My gut tells me that this is an original dial.
    gatorcpa
     
  16. Ko1892 Mar 24, 2015

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    Thank you guys for the feedbacks, interesting discussion, glad that the watch give you some fun :)
    should I try to buy the watch what do you think would be a fair price range I should aim for?
    Regards,
    Ko
     
  17. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 24, 2015

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    For the condition, frankly I'm a bit surprised it didn't sell. $1k US for an 18k, 3 times (or 4 or 5 times depending on how you consider the crown and strap buckle) signed Longines, featuring the derivative of their chronometer movement (which kicked butt in the Observatory tests), seems legit. Good wearable size, too.
    I'm not suggesting you pay the price which no one else wanted to pay. If you can get it for less, more power to you. I'm just not sure there's much room here? Start (respectably) low and work from there (maybe offer $700 USD?) I hesitate to deal with parcels involving Italy, but I have read parcels shipping OUT of Italy have greater success rates than parcels shipping INTO Italy.
    Keep us posted.
     
  18. Ko1892 Mar 24, 2015

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    Sure I will keep you guys posted
     
  19. Ko1892 Mar 25, 2015

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    Got the watch a little cheaper than the asking price. Now waiting for it to arrive. Thank you guys for helping me get this beautiful Longines at a very good price. Will post some pics when I have the watch with me.
    Cheers :D
    KO
     
  20. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 25, 2015

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    You did well. It appears to be a lovely watch.