Lemme See Your Lemanias

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I recently acquired this Lemania 1940s caliber 15TL.


Detailed pictures from a recent service conducted by fellow OF member @Mitka can be found here:
https://workshop.mitka.co.uk/cgi-bin/library?action=show_photos&wat_id=985&tk_id=597914491

The case reference/number is 44 609. I have no certain confirmation on this, but suspect the 44 to designate a 1944 production date, and 609 to be some sorts of running number?
If I ever spot a similar Lemania, it might be possible to confirm if 609 is an actual case reference or running number.

The caliber 15TL movement serial number is 5827. This would fit well with a 1944/45 production date.

From 1932 and onwards, Lemania was the manufacturer of chronographs within the SSHI (later Swatch group).

Various models were available under the different brand names, often only distinguished by the case reference number and the logo on the dial.

The hinged lug design is typical for 30s and 40s watches. What is very unusual is the three lug “droplets”.

This version (case style) was sold under the Omega brand with reference CK2080. Tissot versions have also been spotted, but I have still not seen another Lemania.

It is definitely not a matter of someone putting a Lemania dial on a Tissot or Omega case, as the case back inscriptions are different between the companies. Omega would have a logo and case ref (CK2080).

Tissot had their own marking as well.



(Tissot pictures from a sales ad on Watchprosite.com in 2016)

Apart from the caseback inscriptions, the cases are identical.

In 2009 Omega made the 1941 limited-edition Omega Number 9 Milestone chronograph in white, yellow and red gold as a homage to the CK2080.

More about that here:
https://www.worldwatchreview.com/2009/12/14/omega-number-9-milestone-1941-museum-collection/
 
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^ Very nice & very interesting indeed.
Thanks for sharing.
 
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I know a bunch of members here have nice Lemanias as I see them on the WRUW thread. I'm referring to watches that also have "Lemania" on the dial, not just those with Lemania movements. I searched and was surprised that there's no thread yet that compiles such watches (the closest is one thread dedicated to 5100s). I only have one such watch, which is the 3872 below. I'm hoping to add a Nuclear Sub or a 105 to my collection in the future. So, please, post your Lemanias! Thanks!

Here is my beautiful Lemania given to me 30 years ago by a dear friend. I will need to find a good watchmaker in the US to replace the lost pusherbutton. I may consider selling it to the right person who would care for it....I just don't know where to even begin!
 
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Stunning!
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Here is my beautiful Lemania given to me 30 years ago by a dear friend. I will need to find a good watchmaker in the US to replace the lost pusherbutton. I may consider selling it to the right person who would care for it....I just don't know where to even begin!
And a big thank you! to Northernman who helped me ID the watch as a Lemania. Apparently and early one based on the numbers.
 
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Pardon me for a sales reference here. I did not mean to break the policies of this forum which I have now read and understand. Newbie here. Again my sincere apologies.
 
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I have a thing for Lemania's cal. 1341, but I cannot really overlook the cal. 5012 or the 1345 seen on the regatta timer. 😀

 
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I have a thing for Lemania's cal. 1341, but I cannot really overlook the cal. 5012 or the 1345 seen on the regatta timer. 😀

Stunning is the only word I can come up with. Thanks for sharing!
 
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I have already posted this pic in WRUW but figure it might as well have its place here…

The “story” around this watch is pretty straightforward: I’m not a huge fan (or at least I thought I wasn’t…) of small, hand-wound, plexi-wearing vintage chronos. More drawn to Speedmaster Mk2, Autavias, Montreals and the like…

And yet I felt a semi-itch for one (1)861-powered chrono - just not that overly common Moonwatch. A friend had once shown me a Heuer Carrera 5100, which had kind of put Lemania “on my radar”. So, once every blue moon, I would screen local classified ads for that keyword.

When this 9655 came up, OF - and particular @Northernman - was pretty much the only source to confirm authenticity and I thought that the historical context around this model - its Seamaster cousins and the SSIH morphing into the Swatch Group - made for a cool additional story, on top of the nice design.

Bottom-line: I won the auction w/o too much fighting, invested 3h of driving one evening after work, and retrieved the watch from its OG owner. The gentleman was formerly a service watchmaker with Omega and had picked this one up directly at the Lemania workshop when he had spent time in the Vallée de Joux.

However, he never wore the watch and it has spent the last 40+ years in a drawer. He has changed the caseback seal a while ago, but that’s the only intervention he deemed necessary. As a result, I’m the first person to wear this watch, which keeps time within -2 or -3 seconds per day. I’ll try to ask the local Omega boutique some day whether they can put it on their timegrapher (since 1873 = 861), but it looks like there’s no urgency.
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Hallo friends,
as I guess, Lemania Lugrin SA did deliver all chronograph movements for Omega includind cal 321 and 861 up to 1045 (Lemania 5100) before they used chronograph attachments to Eta calibers.
At least Omega took over the factory. The wrist watch movements 1001 up to 1022 are based on a Lemania design.
And as Lemania was a really famous manufacturer for pocket chronographs, I attach a picture of one for the RAF in WWII, marked 'AM' for Air Ministry on the back.
Greetings Konrad

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I have already posted this pic in WRUW but figure it might as well have its place here…

The “story” around this watch is pretty straightforward: I’m not a huge fan (or at least I thought I wasn’t…) of small, hand-wound, plexi-wearing vintage chronos. More drawn to Speedmaster Mk2, Autavias, Montreals and the like…

And yet I felt a semi-itch for one (1)861-powered chrono - just not that overly common Moonwatch. A friend had once shown a Heuer Carrera 5100 to me, which had kind of put Lemania “on my radar”. So, once every blue moon, I would screen local classified ads for that keyword.

When this 9655 came up, OF - and particular @Northernman - was pretty much the only source to confirm authenticity and I thought that the historical context around this model, its Seamaster cousins and the SSIH morphing into the Swatch Group made for a cool additional story, on top of the nice design.

Bottom-line: I won the auction w/o too much fighting, invested 3h of driving one evening after work, and retrieved the watch from its OG owner. The gentleman was formerly a service watchmaker with Omega and had picked this one up directly at the Lemania workshop when he had spent time in the Vallée de Joux.

However, he never wore the watch and it has spent the last 40+ years in a drawer. He has changed the caseback seal a while ago, but that’s the only intervention he deemed necessary. As a result, I’m the first person to wear this watch, which keeps time within -2 or -3 seconds per day. I’ll try to ask the local Omega boutique some day whether they can put it on their timegrapher (since 1873 = 861), but it looks like there’s no urgency.

Great score! And with excellent provenance to go!😀👍
 
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Cal 3000



Perhaps someone knows The movement production date? #1,238,5XX