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Lemania chrono - the only one I have ever seen

  1. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 7, 2018

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    Hi all,
    I bought this watch some time back as I am well and truly hooked on Lemania. I have since tried to find some information on it without any luck. I am thinking it could be a prototype for the Wakmann Regatta timer. Any information would be appreciated.

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  2. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 7, 2018

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    I’ve seen that inner bezel design on another watch I forget which.

    Also as you know that’s not a regetta timer.
     
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  3. BlackTalon

    BlackTalon Nov 7, 2018

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    The airplane hand definitely reinforces that fact.
     
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  4. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Nov 7, 2018

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    The first quadrant conflicts with your statement.

    But I think it would only be useful if you had a very, very fast yacht.

    (Unless one of the orange centre hands was a minute counter).
     
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  5. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 7, 2018

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    Ok I’m confused now... the center orange hand bezel is marked for a tachometer and regetta.

    Edit

    Ohhh I get it the airplane hand is minutes chrono and the spear is seconds. I assumed wrongly the airplane hand was day... nope the days on the outside has no pointer and you adjust days of the week to the days of the month with the 9 o’clock crown.

    I’m fired.
     
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  6. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 8, 2018

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  7. glnds

    glnds Nov 9, 2018

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  8. Northernman

    Northernman Nov 9, 2018

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    :oops:
    I would need to see a movement and inside case back shot.
    My first hunch is that the watch is a Wakmann with a Lemania dial. Aka Franken.

    Not ruling out the chance it’s legit.
    Lemania did make some small runs of their own from time to time and ref to ref.

    Cheers.
     
    Edited Nov 9, 2018
  9. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 10, 2018

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    I’ll take some movement pictures. What i interesting is that it has the lemania 1340 movement as opposed to the 1341 found in the Wakmanns. If I’m not mistaken the 1340 is a better movement which is also found in the Seamaster 176.007.
     
  10. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 10, 2018

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  11. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 10, 2018

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    I can’t see which other Lemania watch the dial could have come from if it is a franken.
     
  12. Northernman

    Northernman Nov 13, 2018

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    Hi.
    Interesting point about the dial design.
    I have seen similar, but with Bucherer logo.
    What is stamped on the inside of the case back?
    Case ref should be four digits. Lemania would use the same ref for its own versions as for external supplies.
    However they would not leave another makers name imprinted.
    Cheers
     
  13. shoota70

    shoota70 Nov 19, 2018

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    I have nothing to offer, other then I love that watch and interested to follow this thread....

    ::popcorn::
     
  14. sweets

    sweets Nov 28, 2018

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    Hi there
    Just spotted this, which I discussed with the OP by PM on the ATG forum a while back. I have had another look and I have changed my mind.
    I had the Wakmann version, and I can only conclude that this dial was meant for this watch, as you can see from the unique quadrant diameter increase at 3 for the date (with the days rotating on the inner bezel to create a month calendar).
    Never seen a Lemania version before, and the Lemania print here looks crisp enough from that level of detail to be original.
    May I enquire as to the case material, the Wakmann's were all base metal (plated) with an SS back, and I am not sure Lemania ever really used base metal cases.
    I do think the hands are looking a little sus, the plane hand is used much later (usually) on 5100s and 5012s, not the 1340 series movements, which usually has a concorde hand. The chrono hands do not colour match each other, and the H and M hands seem to be much later too.
    But that dial was definitely printed to go in that watch.
    Dave
     
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  15. siguzzi

    siguzzi Nov 28, 2018

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    Interesting watch.
    Is it right that the case is plated?
    Looks like in the rear view you can see some golden shining at the scratches at 4 o clock
     
  16. claes_t

    claes_t Nov 29, 2018

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    I believe the case is plated. Inside of the case back reads Wakmann.
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  17. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Nov 29, 2018

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    The "Fond Axier Inoxydable" on the caseback means that the caseback is made of stainless steel = the rest of the case is plated.
     
  18. Tristanp

    Tristanp Nov 29, 2018

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    Fraken or not congratulations it’s an interesting piece.
    As mentioned above, Lemania did do short runs of watches and do their own versions of other brands watches ( I’m thinking cases) that looked almost identical.
    Here’s my Lemania, it’s a beast! B9C8935B-F747-4FA2-B59B-C74BAB4500D4.jpeg
     
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  19. dakota.destiny

    dakota.destiny Dec 9, 2018

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    That is sweet , i have only seen one other but it was branded by Wakmann.
     
  20. JONKARLOS

    JONKARLOS Jun 23, 2020

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    [QUOTE = "Foo2rama, post: 1094010, miembro: 20013"] He visto ese diseño de bisel interno en otro reloj, pero no recuerdo cuál.

    Además, como saben, ese no es un temporizador de regetta.
    En Wattman igual?