Hi all,
I bought this watch some time back as I am well and truly hooked on Lemania. I have since tried to find some information on it without any luck. I am thinking it could be a prototype for the Wakmann Regatta timer. Any information would be appreciated.

 

I’ve seen that inner bezel design on another watch I forget which.

Also as you know that’s not a regetta timer.

 

The airplane hand definitely reinforces that fact.

 

The first quadrant conflicts with your statement.

But I think it would only be useful if you had a very, very fast yacht.

(Unless one of the orange centre hands was a minute counter).

 

Ok I’m confused now... the center orange hand bezel is marked for a tachometer and regetta.

Edit

Ohhh I get it the airplane hand is minutes chrono and the spear is seconds. I assumed wrongly the airplane hand was day... nope the days on the outside has no pointer and you adjust days of the week to the days of the month with the 9 o’clock crown.

I’m fired.

 

http://blog.elementintime.com/index.php/the-wakmann-aka-breitling-regate-2-chronograph/

Article on the Wakmann

 

One for the Lemania expert @Northernman

 

I would need to see a movement and inside case back shot.
My first hunch is that the watch is a Wakmann with a Lemania dial. Aka Franken.

Not ruling out the chance it’s legit.
Lemania did make some small runs of their own from time to time and ref to ref.

Cheers.

 

I’ll take some movement pictures. What i interesting is that it has the lemania 1340 movement as opposed to the 1341 found in the Wakmanns. If I’m not mistaken the 1340 is a better movement which is also found in the Seamaster 176.007.

 

I can’t see which other Lemania watch the dial could have come from if it is a franken.

 

Hi.
Interesting point about the dial design.
I have seen similar, but with Bucherer logo.
What is stamped on the inside of the case back?
Case ref should be four digits. Lemania would use the same ref for its own versions as for external supplies.
However they would not leave another makers name imprinted.
Cheers

 

I have nothing to offer, other then I love that watch and interested to follow this thread....

 

Hi there
Just spotted this, which I discussed with the OP by PM on the ATG forum a while back. I have had another look and I have changed my mind.
I had the Wakmann version, and I can only conclude that this dial was meant for this watch, as you can see from the unique quadrant diameter increase at 3 for the date (with the days rotating on the inner bezel to create a month calendar).
Never seen a Lemania version before, and the Lemania print here looks crisp enough from that level of detail to be original.
May I enquire as to the case material, the Wakmann's were all base metal (plated) with an SS back, and I am not sure Lemania ever really used base metal cases.
I do think the hands are looking a little sus, the plane hand is used much later (usually) on 5100s and 5012s, not the 1340 series movements, which usually has a concorde hand. The chrono hands do not colour match each other, and the H and M hands seem to be much later too.
But that dial was definitely printed to go in that watch.
Dave

 

Interesting watch.
Is it right that the case is plated?
Looks like in the rear view you can see some golden shining at the scratches at 4 o clock

 

I believe the case is plated. Inside of the case back reads Wakmann.

 

The "Fond Axier Inoxydable" on the caseback means that the caseback is made of stainless steel = the rest of the case is plated.

 

Fraken or not congratulations it’s an interesting piece.
As mentioned above, Lemania did do short runs of watches and do their own versions of other brands watches ( I’m thinking cases) that looked almost identical.
Here’s my Lemania, it’s a beast!

 

That is sweet , i have only seen one other but it was branded by Wakmann.

 

[QUOTE = "Foo2rama, post: 1094010, miembro: 20013"] He visto ese diseño de bisel interno en otro reloj, pero no recuerdo cuál.

Además, como saben, ese no es un temporizador de regetta.
En Wattman igual?