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  1. S.Song

    S.Song Jan 14, 2020

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    Agreed with this. Scratching my head wondering what's going on in the world of Lange. Could it be some of Richemont policy?
     
  2. Cozmopak

    Cozmopak Feb 13, 2020

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    I’ve been following some threads on RolexForums regarding Journe. They read like boglehead investment forums. The Chronometre Bleu is now worth over 50k.
     
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  3. pongster

    pongster Feb 13, 2020

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    FPJ CB is selling above retail.

    Not sure if there is any ALS selling above retail.

    That said, i believe in the power of “AND” not the tyranny of “OR”.
     
  4. Cad290

    Cad290 Feb 13, 2020

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    I don’t think you can get the Lange Odysseus for retail. If you can, please let me know where!
     
  5. jhross98

    jhross98 Feb 13, 2020

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    Completely astonishing what this has done price wise. Crazy. Owned one for a time bought and sold it mid 20s. I loved the dial but thought the hands seemed cheap
     
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  6. Cozmopak

    Cozmopak Feb 13, 2020

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    There’s one for sale now on chrono24 for an asking price of 66,000 dollars.
     
  7. pongster

    pongster Feb 13, 2020

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    My bad. The odysseus escaped my mind. Is it in stores already? Maybe it doesnt appeal to that’s why i didnt think of it. When somebody says Lange, what i think of is the Lange 1, the Zeitwerk and the Datograph (the three pieces i want in my stash).
     
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  8. pongster

    pongster Feb 13, 2020

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    Of a CB or an Odysseus? I think both have same SRP, more or less. One made of tantalum, the other in steel.
     
  9. pongster

    pongster Feb 13, 2020

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    My Chronometer Bleu and Grand Lange 1 sitting comfortably to each other -

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  10. MTROIS

    MTROIS Feb 13, 2020

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    One of the many reasons why I no longer spend any time on that forum....
    Long live OF!!!!!
     
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  11. MTROIS

    MTROIS Feb 13, 2020

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    Yes, a beautiful watch, but has also become overhyped. I wished I would have pulled the trigger sooner on this one, and although I am still on the Journe waiting list, the chances of me getting one are probably slim to none.
     
  12. Cad290

    Cad290 Feb 13, 2020

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    I haven’t seen one for sale yet. Lange told me they only offer them to prior customers. While I do own and appreciate the 1815 chronograph, I did not buy it through a boutique because it is available at large discount second hand.
     
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  13. RazorFrazer

    RazorFrazer Feb 13, 2020

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    Journe for sure. Except foe the datograph lumen ...
     
  14. pongster

    pongster Feb 13, 2020

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    I bought my ALS through a boutique. At a significant discount. Havent been offered the Odysseus yet.

    But your experience in secondary marker is i guess the point of poster above.

    Am curious though about performance of non-CB Journes in the secondary market.
     
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  15. jhross98

    jhross98 Feb 13, 2020

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    Journe 38mm and discontinued models are going absolutely bonkers right now....
     
  16. pongster

    pongster Feb 14, 2020

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    Why would a manufacturer discontinue a model in demand? I would suppose there ought to be a replacement model.
     
  17. NT931

    NT931 Feb 14, 2020

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    Possible reasons discussed here: http://thejourneguy.com/why-the-cb-production-is-becoming-more-limited-for-2019/

    That aside, being the owner of a L1 and a CB, I have to say Lange and Journe are both beautiful watches for quite different reasons.

    Lange is more formal, the FPJ is more versatile, and either would be a worthy addition to any collection.
     
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  18. Cozmopak

    Cozmopak Feb 14, 2020

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    I agree. Both are beautiful for different reasons. Just my personal opinion, but I do think that the Lange designs, being more traditional, may hold up better to the test of time than many of Journes designs. But obviously no one can predict.
     
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  19. Cad290

    Cad290 Feb 14, 2020

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    Have you asked for the Odysseus?
     
  20. rahilb

    rahilb Feb 14, 2020

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    For me, if I was spending this kind of money on a watch I would try to be a patron of independent watchmakers, to support the art. I would look at Voulitanen for purely aesthetic reasons, or Roger Smith to support the British watchmaking industry.

    To stay on topic though I would definitely go for a Journe over a Lange. To me the design language of Journe is so much more compelling, it’s hyper modern but at the same time classic and Art Deco; they have created their own language. Lange on the other hand seems contrived as it leans into very Bauhaus style utilitarianism. Of course Lange were probably the pioneers for these kind of designs, but that was so long ago and the style is so ubiquitous now for me they feel cliche. I guess it’s just a new version of the ‘Seinfeld isn’t funny’ trope: ‘Lange designs are boring’.