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Jomashop purchase - Google Gemni says it’s fake - help!!!

jayruss
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I just bought my first Omega from Jomashop and saved up my 6100. I took some pictures and Chat GPT and Gemini Google said it’s a fake reproduction. Can anyone help me before I call Jomashop? I hope AI is wrong this time. I can’t believe - but see what it says from these. And if it’s fake what do I do?
I saved up for three years to get this. 🙁
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The final :
This is what it said- which I don’t know if it’s right or wrong :
While the watch was delivered in what appears to be authentic packaging and bears a serial number (⁠A567582⁠) that falsely pulls a valid entry from the official database, a physical and mechanical inspection of the movement reveals it is a high-tier replica. The specific technical points of failure identifying this watch as a counterfeit include:


Presence of a Regulator Index Arm: The balance bridge features a prominent, mechanical regulator arm used to adjust a standard metal hairspring. A genuine Omega Caliber 8800 utilizes a strictly free-sprung balance system with a black silicon (\bm{Si14}) hairspring and has a completely clean balance bridge with absolutely no adjustment levers.


Decorative Overlay Plates and Faux Jewels: Under magnification, the movement plates reveal themselves to be non-functional aesthetic overlays stamped with Omega branding to mimic the Caliber 8800 architecture. The synthetic ruby jewels are shallow, non-functional caps glued into the top plate rather than deep, operational pivot bearings for a genuine Swiss gear train.


Component Serialization Stamps: The solid end links of the bracelet bear the alphanumeric stamps ⁠JIF⁠ and ⁠Z019669⁠/⁠Z019670⁠, which correspond exactly to known component matrices used by replication facilities rather than authentic Omega production runs.


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Best regards,


Jason. ( thankful for all of you!!!)

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Mark020
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We HATE AI posts. And poor pics
 
JimInOz
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jayruss jayruss
Presence of a Regulator Index Arm: The balance bridge features a prominent, mechanical regulator arm used to adjust a standard metal hairspring. A genuine Omega Caliber 8800 utilizes a strictly free-sprung balance system with a black silicon (\bm{Si14}) hairspring and has a completely clean balance bridge with absolutely no adjustment levers.
Really????

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JimInOz
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Before we can comment further we need clear photos taken in natural daylight with a camera that doesn't have vaseline on the lens (😉).

Dial photos should have the hands at 10:10, or best position not obscuring printing.

As to using AI to evaluate anything, the old computer adage SISO is true. (Shit In Shit Out).
Unfortunately, AI is good at getting shit in, but is unable to filter what it has harvested.
 
Archer
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When I look up the serial number A567582⁠, I get "no results found" so something is off...
 
ErichKeane
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Archer Archer
When I look up the serial number A567582⁠, I get "no results found" so something is off...
INTERESTING. Based on photos, I was leaning towards 'no concerns' (well 1: the top of the hairspring' stud has a screwdriver slot in it for some reason?), but obviously pending 'good' photos.

But the serial number not being valid/in the database is a HUGE red flag (perhaps red-flag).
 
SOG53
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you can contact Jomashop and inform them that the SN does not come up in Omega database and ask for a refund. Check the return policy.
Im not sure that it proves it is a fake, but it certainly raises the question.
 
H
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If you have the master chronometer card you can see if the app recognizes it and what it shows.
 
Vinz Clortho
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Interested to see better photos, but serial number not coming back is a huge red flag.
 
lenndon
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Why would they use a serial number that doesn't come up when producing fakes?
 
Duracuir1
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Fingers crossed that you sort it out Jason. You deserve it after three years of saving your money.
 
ErichKeane
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lenndon lenndon
Why would they use a serial number that doesn't come up when producing fakes?
The fakes basically always have invalid serial numbers. Its just a level of attention to detail that they don't care about. They don't have the ability to look up serial numbers (only Omega boutiques/authorized service folks can do it), so the only way they'd have to get a serial number is to see the 'real' one with that serial number.

At that point, they ironically become also quite easy to identify, since we know all but that ONE is fake(though, they OFTEN use the same serial on fakes anyway).
 
ErichKeane
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DSotW DSotW
Can you take it to an AD or Boutique to verify it ?
TBH, the folks at an AD/Boutique are much less reliable than just photos here. The people at the AD/OB are just sales folks, who are far from experts. The BEST they can do is the lookup that Archer did. But until OP comes back with better photos/updates, I don't think we'll find anything out 😀
 
DSotW
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TBH, the folks at an AD/Boutique are much less reliable than just photos here. The people at the AD/OB are just sales folks, who are far from experts. The BEST they can do is the lookup that Archer did. But until OP comes back with better photos/updates, I don't think we'll find anything out 😀
The Omega AD/Boutiques near me all have an actual watchmaker on staff, they are usually relegated to the basement (in the case of the Boutique, the upstairs floor).
 
NGO1
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DSotW DSotW
The Omega AD/Boutiques near me all have an actual watchmaker on staff, they are usually relegated to the basement (in the case of the Boutique, the upstairs floor).
Can confirm this. Anaheim and Honolulu OBs each have technician team in the back. However, they are not service technicians. I asked. They don’t service watches at boutiques.

I still don’t know what the technicians do at OBs.
 
gatorcpa
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I still don’t know what the technicians do at OBs
Mostly bracelet adjustments and strap changes at customer request. Any mechanical service work has to go back to a Swatch Group facility, either in the US or Switzerland, depending on what needs to be done.
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TexOmega
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I only went one time to a relatively close AD to get a leather strap switched out for a Omega SS bracelet and fitting, and the "technician" in the back could not get a springbar off and the sales guy brought it back to me with a tool for me to get it off.

I just looked at the guy, speechless, and me and my watch left, posthaste.
 
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