Jaeger 72C on the Bay

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aap

·Feb 7, 2021

Hi guys! Thoughts?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Jaeger-ultrarare-Valjoux-72C-triple-calendar-chronograph-18-kt-gold-no-LeCoultre/124545746039?hash=item1cff814477:g:siMAAOSwPT5ctd59&fbclid=IwAR3dZo2HUnBuIv-fhwuKhky7guRhWhekWDkpJkIdXUo3h0FDUja4Ot008kE

 

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Dan S

·Feb 7, 2021

Putting aside the price, it's an interesting watch. The dial appears to be embossed, which is not a high-end feature, but it's in very good condition, as is the case. The movement appears to be from the 40s. My gut is telling me that it's a put-together piece, but overall, it would be an interesting thing to take a chance on at 1/10 the price just to try to learn more about it.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Feb 7, 2021

Can't comment on the dial but the movement is in quite good condition (note the screw heads). Also, the hallmarks on the outside of the case-back look pretty crisp, which is indicative of little use.

 

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Darlinboy

·Feb 8, 2021

I am suspicious of the dial. Should have open "6" and "9"s I believe, on the date track, for example?

 

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georgeszaslavsky

·Feb 8, 2021

Darlinboy

I am suspicious of the dial. Should have open "6" and "9"s I believe, on the date track, for example?

Me too

 

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vujen

·Feb 8, 2021

cheap! 😁

 

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Dries

·Feb 8, 2021

is that paint on the side of those applied markers?

 

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Dan S

·Feb 8, 2021

Dries

is that paint on the side of those applied markers?

As I mentioned, I believe the dial is embossed.

 

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Xtof

·Mar 7, 2021

This chronograph was part of a "infamous" auction sale that took place in Paris nearly 3 years ago. The sale ended with so few lots effectively sold that the official results were never published...

This chronograph was lot #39. The exact same photos used for the ebay sale were already used for the catalog, which can be downloaded here :

http://catalogue.gazette-drouot.com/pdf/124/90211/catacornette20180517bd.pdf

 

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georgeszaslavsky

·Mar 7, 2021

Xtof

This chronograph was part of a "infamous" auction sale that took place in Paris nearly 3 years ago. The sale ended with so few lots effectively sold that the official results were never published...

This chronograph was lot #39. The exact same photos used for the ebay sale were already used for the catalog, which can be downloaded here :

http://catalogue.gazette-drouot.com/pdf/124/90211/catacornette20180517bd.pdf

I have heard about Arnaud Cornette de St Cyr who made the sale back then , don't know if the watches were truely authentified, and be thankful that it didn't went through Antiquorum with that damn crook of Romain Réa otherwise prices would have gone through the roof. Prices of the valjoux 72chronographs have exploded over 15 years and this not the average joe's chronograph movement. You want something with a valjoux 72, then be ready to spend big bucks. Also when buying a vintage valjoux 72 bear in mind that spare parts and people who know how to overhaul them to the perfection are not numerous.

 

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Larry S

·Mar 7, 2021·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Does JLC offer an extracts service? Dial looks off to me.

 

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georgeszaslavsky

·Mar 8, 2021

Larry S

Does JLC offer an extracts service? Dial looks off to me.

Yes JLC offers an extract service but you have to pay for it.

 

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rcs914

·Mar 8, 2021

Were Jaeger watches still produced post the Jager-LeCoultre merger in 1937?

 

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TexOmega

·Mar 8, 2021

rcs914

Were Jaeger watches still produced post the Jager-LeCoultre merger in 1937?

Mine is from circa 1941-42

 

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Mark020

·Mar 8, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Nice one!!!

Anyone an idea what the M on the movement designates?

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Mar 8, 2021

Mark020

Nice one!!!

Anyone an idea what the M on the movement designates?

"M" stands for "métal". Marking movements with a letter that denoted case materials of métal (M), argent (A), or (O), or platine (P) was standard practice for Swiss watches there were exported to France during the period.

 

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w154

·Mar 8, 2021

Mark020

Anyone an idea what the M on the movement designates?

I think there was conjecture in the past that it signified a “Military” movement, but it seems that it just stands for “Metal”.

Edit: beaten too it !

 

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Mark020

·Mar 8, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Thanks gentleman!

 

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Mark020

·Mar 8, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Xtof

This chronograph was part of a "infamous" auction sale that took place in Paris nearly 3 years ago. The sale ended with so few lots effectively sold that the official results were never published...

What went wrong?

 

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Xtof

·Mar 8, 2021

Mark020

What went wrong?

The low estimates written in the catalog corresponded to the reserve prices of the seller. Moreover, in addition to the hammer price, there was +30% of fees for the potential buyer.
At the end, the asked prices were considered too high for watches of average condition and the sale was a complete flop. The auctioneer was forced to look contented while playing a difficult role as nobody was bidding... Watch after watch, he was hammering in the air. But the show had to go on.