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Is this the very first 2998?
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harrymai86
·How can the dial get that much tropical while the bezel retain such blackness 😁 i saw some pixs of other similar tropical dial 2998 and thr bezel should be faded to some degree. Or that means it is a replacement bezel even though it is correct.
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ndgal
·How can the dial get that much tropical while the bezel retain such blackness 😁 i saw some pixs of other similar tropical dial 2998 and thr bezel should be faded to some degree. Or that means it is a replacement bezel even though it is correct.
Two different parts, made of different materials...
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oddboy
·Shame about the short hands....
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oddboy
·fair enough. more than reflections, it must be the angle. I expected the hands to reach the minute track.
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watchyouwant
·Just go to the Rolex forum , sales section and have a look at Jaceks Listing of the brown ed white. Dial colour. Replacement bezel colour....... kind regards. Achim
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ndgal
·Just go to the Rolex forum , sales section and have a look at Jaceks Listing of the brown ed white. Dial colour. Replacement bezel colour....... kind regards. Achim
Just look at Sammy Sosa...
The Ed White with the chemically color changed bezel has nothing to do with a natural “Tropicalization” of the dial on this 2998-1, or the “Untropicalization” of the bezel...
This serial range of 2998-1 is known to have Brown dials, same as 29.11.... serial range on 145.022-69s are known to have brown dials.
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michael e
·How can the dial get that much tropical while the bezel retain such blackness 😁 i saw some pixs of other similar tropical dial 2998 and thr bezel should be faded to some degree. Or that means it is a replacement bezel even though it is correct.
The statement about expecting a faded bezel with a “tropical dial” is not correct.
I do not believe that a brown dial has anything to do with how much sunshine it has seen at all, I like the name tropical but I don’t think sun exposure has anything to do with the colour change.
The OP watch is a beauty for sure, one which we won”t see the likes of for sale very often at all. I want it badly, but it is out of my league price wise these days.
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kov
·@eugeneandresson - it wasn't me 😀
This watch is only a couple of digits away from mine and looks almost identical, indeed. Mine was produced on October 27th, 1959 so I assume this one was on October 10, 1959... wonder why they did hide that on their picture.
I concur about the hands length - mine touch the minute track, and would add that I am really not sure about that lollipop. From all the conversations I could have had with people at the Heritage team and/or DBs, the consensus about the lollipop on a 2998-1 is a no-no, for sure not on early serials.
Will attentively follow that auction, for sure 😀
This watch is only a couple of digits away from mine and looks almost identical, indeed. Mine was produced on October 27th, 1959 so I assume this one was on October 10, 1959... wonder why they did hide that on their picture.
I concur about the hands length - mine touch the minute track, and would add that I am really not sure about that lollipop. From all the conversations I could have had with people at the Heritage team and/or DBs, the consensus about the lollipop on a 2998-1 is a no-no, for sure not on early serials.
Will attentively follow that auction, for sure 😀
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ndgal
·The statement about expecting a faded bezel with a “tropical dial” is not correct.
I do not believe that a brown dial has anything to do with how much sunshine it has seen at all, I like the name tropical but I don’t think sun exposure has anything to do with the colour change.
Correct. Not much to do with sun exposure.
The main cause is simply the (originally) black paint used to paint the brass dial plates.
Years after production some paints faded in a certain way or had a reaction with the brass dial plate which led to discoloration/fade of the original color.
Here is another 2998-1 that is less than 200 serials away from the auction watch.
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ndgal
·Here’s another 2998-1 (oval O) that was just posted on IG the other day.
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eugeneandresson
·Correct. Not much to do with sun exposure.
The main cause is simply the (originally) black paint used to paint the brass dial plates.
Years after production some paints faded in a certain way or had a reaction with the brass dial plate which led to discoloration/fade of the original color.
Here is another 2998-1 that is less than 200 serials away from the auction watch.
Interestingly, the remaining hand-lume color is a match for the lollipop.
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Andy_timeman
·Watch is a beautiful example.. somehow many seem to have forgotten just how much 50k usd actually is and we all perhaps need a reality check.... personally I think go for more only because of crazy fed reserve and the other central banks...not so long ago fractions of 50k... most normal people would dream of having such money.
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michael e
·Correct. Not much to do with sun exposure.
The main cause is simply the (originally) black paint used to paint the brass dial plates.
Years after production some paints faded in a certain way or had a reaction with the brass dial plate which led to discoloration/fade of the original color.
Here is another 2998-1 that is less than 200 serials away from the auction watch.
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Kwijibo
·@eugeneandresson - it wasn't me 😀
This watch is only a couple of digits away from mine and looks almost identical, indeed. Mine was produced on October 27th, 1959 so I assume this one was on October 10, 1959... wonder why they did hide that on their picture.
I concur about the hands length - mine touch the minute track, and would add that I am really not sure about that lollipop. From all the conversations I could have had with people at the Heritage team and/or DBs, the consensus about the lollipop on a 2998-1 is a no-no, for sure not on early serials.
Will attentively follow that auction, for sure 😀
Is you serial number inferior? I'm puzzled about the date of issue.
On this pic the hour hand seems long enough no? In moonwatch only the 2998-1 is said to have (or not) a lolipop hand even if they must be scarce.
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kov
·@Kwijibo This serial is the first of the known range. Mine comes right after. No need to be puzzled - it’s nothing new that Omega didn’t follow the serial numbers in production.
Your question was is it the first: serial, obviously yes / produced most certainly not as mine came earlier 😉
In regards to the lollipop, I tend to trust DBs’ opinion more than anybody’s else - they have certainly observed the widest range of examples over the years. And it’s okay if you don’t 😀
Your question was is it the first: serial, obviously yes / produced most certainly not as mine came earlier 😉
In regards to the lollipop, I tend to trust DBs’ opinion more than anybody’s else - they have certainly observed the widest range of examples over the years. And it’s okay if you don’t 😀
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