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Is this patina original or relumed?
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mac_omega
·can´t comment on the lume... but it has a wrong bezel and a wrong centre chronograph hand
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Dan S
·At first glance, I don't have major concerns about the lume on the dial. I think that if they had relumed the dial, they probably would have replaced the lost lume in the minute hand.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Looks OK, attractive even but as noted the hands do not.
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Marsimaxam
·I'm going to vote the other way...I believe it is a relumed dial.
Why?
1. The lume material is too consistent, there is usually some variation, even in the most perfect of vintage dials when you examine very closely
2. The sweep hand has been replaced, yet, the lume at the tip is an exact match of the lume of the markers
3. Why didn't they do the hands... makes it look more authentic.
I may be wrong, but just my opinion and I await replies from those with more knowledge then myself.
Why?
1. The lume material is too consistent, there is usually some variation, even in the most perfect of vintage dials when you examine very closely
2. The sweep hand has been replaced, yet, the lume at the tip is an exact match of the lume of the markers
3. Why didn't they do the hands... makes it look more authentic.
I may be wrong, but just my opinion and I await replies from those with more knowledge then myself.
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Sherbie
·The fact that they didnt relume the hands makes me think the lume plots have not been relumed.
So i vote original
So i vote original
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoI'm going to vote the other way...I believe it is a relumed dial.
Why?
1. The lume material is too consistent, there is usually some variation, even in the most perfect of vintage dials when you examine very closely
2. The sweep hand has been replaced, yet, the lume at the tip is an exact match of the lume of the markers
3. Why didn't they do the hands... makes it look more authentic.
I may be wrong, but just my opinion and I await replies from those with more knowledge then myself.
I like #2
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earth38
·Really nice colors.
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mountainunder
·Thank you all.
I'd like to summarize your feedback so far.
Good look and color - 2 votes
New chronograph hands and bezel - 2 votes
Patina is the original - 2 votes
Patina relimed - 2 votes
Hmm.
I've seen similar Patina's many times in the 80's and 90's Speedmaster.
Did you ask Omega to service it back then and did Omega replace the chronograph hands and rerimed it?
I'll ask you another question.
This watch is priced at US$11362.77
The bezel and chronograph hand are wrong.
Black minute and hour hands
The dials are nice to look at.
bracelet is 1035 and end links are 519 (19mm machined)
The rug is slightly thinner.
The edges are in a state of roundness.
Is that a fair selling price?
Other picture put.
I use a translation service. Sorry for the weird English.
I'd like to summarize your feedback so far.
Good look and color - 2 votes
New chronograph hands and bezel - 2 votes
Patina is the original - 2 votes
Patina relimed - 2 votes
Hmm.
I've seen similar Patina's many times in the 80's and 90's Speedmaster.
Did you ask Omega to service it back then and did Omega replace the chronograph hands and rerimed it?
I'll ask you another question.
This watch is priced at US$11362.77
The bezel and chronograph hand are wrong.
Black minute and hour hands
The dials are nice to look at.
bracelet is 1035 and end links are 519 (19mm machined)
The rug is slightly thinner.
The edges are in a state of roundness.
Is that a fair selling price?
Other picture put.
I use a translation service. Sorry for the weird English.
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Dan S
·The bezel has zero value, so keep that in mind.
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Passover
·Do you have any movement and inner caseback pictures?
Crown is not correct
Very few stretch links on the barcelet (correct number should be 9) thats why they attatched a clasp extension
Crown is not correct
Very few stretch links on the barcelet (correct number should be 9) thats why they attatched a clasp extension
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Marsimaxam
·Too many things off... I'd pass on this watch. I realize an Ed White in great condition would be a lot more than 11K, but, you are making far too many compromises and asking a lot of questions. Are you set on buying an Ed White version of the Speedmaster? Are you willing to consider other versions of the Speedmaster?
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoThe watch was dressed up for sale - shiny new bezel, new seconds hand and crown as well as polished case and bracelet and "optimized photos." It's just me but I doubt lume looking like this when the rest of the watch needed considerable refurbishing.
For comparison here is a 105.002 that I own:
For comparison here is a 105.002 that I own:
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Marsimaxam
·The watch was dressed up for sale - shiny new bezel, new seconds hand and crown as well as polished case and bracelet and "optimized photos." It's just me but I doubt lume looking like this when the rest of the watch needed considerable refurbishing.
For comparison here is a 105.002 that I own:
A stunning version. I think you just made myself and mountainunder envious.
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFMy vote is relumed. For one it is too thick and though slightly, it is inconsistent.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!My vote is relumed. For one it is too thick and though slightly, it is inconsistent.
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arkman
·I'm going to vote the other way...I believe it is a relumed dial.
Why?
1. The lume material is too consistent, there is usually some variation, even in the most perfect of vintage dials when you examine very closely
2. The sweep hand has been replaced, yet, the lume at the tip is an exact match of the lume of the markers
3. Why didn't they do the hands... makes it look more authentic.
I may be wrong, but just my opinion and I await replies from those with more knowledge then myself.
I think Marsimaxam's second point regarding the similarity between the lume in the sweephand and lume in the markers makes me very suspicious this was relumed at the time the sweep hand was replaced.
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mountainunder
·Thank you all for your various opinions.
The seller is an old and famous shop in Japan.I don't think the seller modifies the watch, but they do polish and maintain it.
Also, the seller's photos are very good.
The seller did not provide another photo.Too bad...
I like Straight lug Speedmaster.
I'm not sure if I should buy it and get the original parts or not buy...
Thank you all...
By the way, the sales page is here.
https://www.jackroad.co.jp/shop/g/g3406494/
https://www.chrono24.jp/omega/-3rd-speed-master-3rd--id16077562.htm
Nice watch! I want to
My watch. 145.022-71 Mod
The seller is an old and famous shop in Japan.I don't think the seller modifies the watch, but they do polish and maintain it.
Also, the seller's photos are very good.
Do you have any movement and inner caseback pictures?
Crown is not correct
Very few stretch links on the barcelet (correct number should be 9) thats why they attatched a clasp extension
Too many things off... I'd pass on this watch. I realize an Ed White in great condition would be a lot more than 11K, but, you are making far too many compromises and asking a lot of questions. Are you set on buying an Ed White version of the Speedmaster? Are you willing to consider other versions of the Speedmaster?
I'm not sure if I should buy it and get the original parts or not buy...
Thank you all...
By the way, the sales page is here.
https://www.jackroad.co.jp/shop/g/g3406494/
https://www.chrono24.jp/omega/-3rd-speed-master-3rd--id16077562.htm
The watch was dressed up for sale - shiny new bezel, new seconds hand and crown as well as polished case and bracelet and "optimized photos." It's just me but I doubt lume looking like this when the rest of the watch needed considerable refurbishing.
For comparison here is a 105.002 that I own:
My watch. 145.022-71 Mod
