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  1. mountainunder Sep 16, 2020

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    This picture is dial of Ed white watch .
    Is this patina original or relimed?
    It's hard to judge from this picture alone, but what do you think?

    Thanks!!
     
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  2. mac_omega Sep 16, 2020

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    can´t comment on the lume... but it has a wrong bezel and a wrong centre chronograph hand
     
  3. Dan S Sep 16, 2020

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    At first glance, I don't have major concerns about the lume on the dial. I think that if they had relumed the dial, they probably would have replaced the lost lume in the minute hand.
     
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  4. padders Oooo subtitles! Sep 16, 2020

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    Looks OK, attractive even but as noted the hands do not.
     
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  5. Marsimaxam Sep 16, 2020

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    I'm going to vote the other way...I believe it is a relumed dial.
    Why?
    1. The lume material is too consistent, there is usually some variation, even in the most perfect of vintage dials when you examine very closely
    2. The sweep hand has been replaced, yet, the lume at the tip is an exact match of the lume of the markers
    3. Why didn't they do the hands... makes it look more authentic.
    I may be wrong, but just my opinion and I await replies from those with more knowledge then myself.
     
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  6. Sherbie Sep 16, 2020

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    The fact that they didnt relume the hands makes me think the lume plots have not been relumed.

    So i vote original
     
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  7. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 16, 2020

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    I like #2
     
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  8. earth38 Sep 16, 2020

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    Really nice colors.
     
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  9. mountainunder Sep 17, 2020

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    Thank you all.

    I'd like to summarize your feedback so far.
    Good look and color - 2 votes
    New chronograph hands and bezel - 2 votes
    Patina is the original - 2 votes
    Patina relimed - 2 votes

    Hmm.
    I've seen similar Patina's many times in the 80's and 90's Speedmaster.
    Did you ask Omega to service it back then and did Omega replace the chronograph hands and rerimed it?

    I'll ask you another question.

    This watch is priced at US$11362.77
    The bezel and chronograph hand are wrong.
    Black minute and hour hands
    The dials are nice to look at.
    bracelet is 1035 and end links are 519 (19mm machined)
    The rug is slightly thinner.
    The edges are in a state of roundness.

    Is that a fair selling price?
    Other picture put.

    I use a translation service. Sorry for the weird English.
     
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  10. Dan S Sep 17, 2020

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    The bezel has zero value, so keep that in mind.
     
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  11. Passover Sep 17, 2020

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    Do you have any movement and inner caseback pictures?

    Crown is not correct

    Very few stretch links on the barcelet (correct number should be 9) thats why they attatched a clasp extension
     
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  12. Marsimaxam Sep 17, 2020

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    Too many things off... I'd pass on this watch. I realize an Ed White in great condition would be a lot more than 11K, but, you are making far too many compromises and asking a lot of questions. Are you set on buying an Ed White version of the Speedmaster? Are you willing to consider other versions of the Speedmaster?
     
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  13. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 17, 2020

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    The watch was dressed up for sale - shiny new bezel, new seconds hand and crown as well as polished case and bracelet and "optimized photos." It's just me but I doubt lume looking like this when the rest of the watch needed considerable refurbishing.

    For comparison here is a 105.002 that I own:

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  14. Marsimaxam Sep 17, 2020

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    A stunning version. I think you just made myself and mountainunder envious.
     
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  15. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 17, 2020

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    My vote is relumed. For one it is too thick and though slightly, it is inconsistent.
     
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  16. padders Oooo subtitles! Sep 17, 2020

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    It may actually be a bit too consistent for an Ed White. They do tend to wobbliness. That aside, the list of other interventions this has had would make me highly suspicious and not inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  17. arkman Sep 17, 2020

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    I think Marsimaxam's second point regarding the similarity between the lume in the sweephand and lume in the markers makes me very suspicious this was relumed at the time the sweep hand was replaced.
     
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  18. mountainunder Sep 19, 2020

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    Thank you all for your various opinions.

    The seller is an old and famous shop in Japan.I don't think the seller modifies the watch, but they do polish and maintain it.
    Also, the seller's photos are very good.

    The seller did not provide another photo.Too bad...

    I like Straight lug Speedmaster.

    I'm not sure if I should buy it and get the original parts or not buy...
    Thank you all...

    By the way, the sales page is here.
    https://www.jackroad.co.jp/shop/g/g3406494/
    https://www.chrono24.jp/omega/-3rd-speed-master-3rd--id16077562.htm

    Nice watch! I want to

    My watch. 145.022-71 Mod
     
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