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Is There Any Dial Color Variation For " From Moon To Mars Speedy " ?

  1. Mare Nostrum May 12, 2013

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    Heard there is some error of color on one of the sub-dials in one of the later production series...Is this true ?

    Can anybody show pics of the difference ?

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 12, 2013

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    Some of them looked a bit faded or washed out, not sure of the specifics though
     
  3. Mathlar May 12, 2013

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    Here's mine, produced in April 2011. Sorry if the pictures are not great.

    The subdials are darker than I've seen on earlier examples, particularly the Mars subdial. The moon looks a little more green than others I've seen. Search on Watchuseek and you'll find quite a few examples.

    The last I saw for sale was in the popup boutique in London Heathrow in December. It looked awful, like it'd been stored in full sun in a window display. The dials seemed somehow faded, and the Earth subdial in particular was a funny shade of pale blue-green. I don't have a picture, although the guy behind the desk mentioned that all were printed individually and there is variation from piece to piece.

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  4. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 12, 2013

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    Yes, at least I have seen 3 version.

    Here is mine, I bought NOS, production number <600, so I guess it is early production (2005 or 2006)

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  5. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    Here are several variation that I observe. Mathlar's match no 1, mine is no 2:

    1. From Omega press kit: dark red mars, dark grey moon shades
    Omega Moon-to-Mars.highres press kit.jpg

    2. From watches co.UK: orange mars, greenish grey moon
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    3. From a Phillipine collector: light orange mars, light grey moon.
    img1869n Moon to mars.jpg

    I think Omega has several dial suppliers for their Speedy pro (not only Moon to Mars). While for normal speedy the variance is negligible, for complex picture like moon to mars it created noticeable visual differences.
     
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  6. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    This is one Speedy i just cannot begin to like... I spotted a new one in the AD in Miami not so long back - just do not like the dial!

    Sorry guys!
     
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  7. Mathlar May 13, 2013

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    I can buy that theory. I suspect there's a lot of variation over time within the manufacturers as well though, given they were on the price list for an 8 year period... mine has a much greener Moon subdial than the Omega press kit example.

    I think it's the "Marmite" of the Speedy world (or should that be the Speedy 125 or maybe even, heaven forbid, the Apollo XVII?)... But 6000+ others disagree with you.. as a numbered edition this one was on general sale from 2004 until January 2013!


     
  8. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    Everybody has their own taste my friend........... no worry about that :)
     
  9. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    When I was in Saudi, Moon to Mars is the only Speedmaster Pro variant they carried outside 3570.50.

    In Indonesia, no AD/ boutique carried Moon to Mars anymore since last year.
    I guess it also reflect nation/race taste, on top of individual taste.
     
  10. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    There was one that had the subdials sort of offset to the right, like they were misprinted
     
  11. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    How come they pass Omega QC? Last month I saw video on Breitling manufacturing and assembly. The QC processes are very rigorous. I believe Omega hold similar standard, right?
     
  12. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    In other view probably 100 years from now this misprinted dial will be highly valuable like collectible misprinted post stamp. :p
     
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  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    It happens, Rolex misprinted a HUGE number of Milgauss white dials badly in 2008
     
  14. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    Elaborate please! I wasn't aware of this.
     
  15. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe May 13, 2013

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    Ouch......... too bad there is no recall program like in automotive industry. Imagine this news: " Rolex announce to recall 2008 and 2009 Milgauss series no 34 XXXX to 35 XXXXX for dial replacement in nearest Rolex Authorized Service Center. Extra cleaning and oiling service will be added for free"
     
  16. ulackfocus May 13, 2013

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    Chocolate Speedmasters are very popular and even faked, so in 40 years do you think there will be debates over orange marmalade Moon to Mars dials? :p
     
  17. Mathlar May 13, 2013

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    Perhaps, maybe when one comes on to the market that doesn't look like a 70s photo that's been left in the sunlight ;-)
     
  18. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    The Milgauss white dial is printed in two parts, black and orange. If you have a look at this dial you'll see the orange text (including the seconds markers around the outer edge) are all perfectly in alignment. However the black text, including the ROLEX Oyster Perpetual at the top, and the Superlative Chronometer text below, and even the SWISS MADE text is shifted to the left.

    Its not a one off, there are heaps of them floating around, the total number they must have screwed up would be in the thousands easily.

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  19. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member May 13, 2013

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    Indeed - I was just saying.
     
  20. Mare Nostrum May 14, 2013

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    Thanks for all who replied....What an eye opener for all variations for this model !::book::