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  1. jakeh417 Jan 22, 2014

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  2. ulackfocus Jan 22, 2014

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    The 1120 3 hand and 1128 GMT calibers are based on an ETA 2892, but I've never heard of an 1121 either.
     
  3. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jan 22, 2014

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    I am not aware of an 1121 from Omega, and some things on that movement are certainly questionable. If I could make out the serial number I would try to look it up, but it's not clear enough that I can make it out in the photo.

    To me this looks like someone has taken a main plate from some fake movement, and put genuine Omega bridges on it. I have never seen an Omega movement that has their specific bridge design (as opposed to the typical 2892 design) that does not have perlage on the main plate.

    Would love to have a shot showing the serial number, or with the balance wheel stopped...

    Very fishy...

    Cheers, Al
     
  4. jakeh417 Jan 22, 2014

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    I emailed him, waiting to see if he will reply.
     
  5. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jan 22, 2014

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    That movement looks fishy to me also:
    $_57.jpg
    I think we should save this picture here for posterity, or until someone can figure out what it is.
    gatorcpa
     
  6. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 24, 2014

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    I checked in the glossary of calibres in AJTT last night & no cal 1121 is listed or shown. Only 1120 & 1128, neither of which look anything like this.
     
  7. jakeh417 Jan 24, 2014

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    Yea I am going to just have to conclude this is a fake. I asked a replica forum in hopes someone might recognize it from a replica watch. No body answered.

    Seller has not answered any of my emails. I am REALLY temped to buy it so that I can post better shots and it can be discussed here.
     
  8. ulackfocus Jan 24, 2014

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    Why would you buy it? It's a waste of your money and you would be supporting counterfeiters. Report it to eBay.
     
  9. jakeh417 Jan 24, 2014

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    Curiosity. It's like nothing I've seen. I think it's good for something this, where it cant be found anywhere else, to show how they do it. Again was just a thought.
     
  10. Mothra Jan 24, 2014

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    So a slightly simpler question - which omegas have the day around the circumference like that movement? I cant think of any...
     
  11. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jan 27, 2014

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    I think I figured out what this is supposed to be.

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?12&ranfft&&2uswk&ETA_2834_1

    ETA 2834-1

    Not sure if this ETA caliber was ever used in an Omega or not. There were some COSC certified versions of this movement. There are also a lot of Chinese clones.

    I don't know if this is the real thing or a cheap clone.
    gatorcpa
     
  12. jakeh417 Jan 27, 2014

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    He uploaded a better picture, I can barely make out the serial as 60122295 but I can be wrong.

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  13. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jan 28, 2014

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    Well that serial number pulls up a Ref. 25012100, and of course with a Cal. 1120 movement.

    [​IMG]

    So as suspected, it looks like someone pulled the bridges off a Cal. 1120, and put them on another movement's base plate.

    New bridges are not cheap, so assuming they are in good shape they would be worth the price they are asking as spare parts - but of course you have no idea what the condition is, and why they were removed from the original 1120 in the first place...

    Cheers, Al
     
  14. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jan 28, 2014

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    Ofrei.com sells an entire NOS ETA 2834, working and with the rotor, for slightly more than this guy is asking for a bunch of parts.

    Doesn't have Omega finished bridges, though.
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  15. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jan 28, 2014

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    I wasn't suggesting it be bought for use as a 2834 of course - have no idea what watch you would use that for, and certainly no Omega model. Also the 2834 would not be a chronometer version, or likely even a top grade - most like Elabore grade.

    But if you needed replacement Omega bridges/parts, it's a decent price if they are in good shape. Just the barrel bridge alone would cost $100 to buy. The automatic device framework - upper section only - is another $75, so just in those 2 parts you are getting a deal.

    New chronometer balance complete (which this appears to be) would cost $150, balance cock another $100...these parts aren't cheap.

    Again provided they are in good shape, it's not a bad deal. Of course you have to decide if you want to support someone selling this franken, but I'm not addressing that - just the value of the genuine parts that are on the movement.

    Cheers, Al