Is the PO 2500 Omega’s 5-digit Sub ?

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Thanks for your feedback.
As a matter of fact I do not have a fitting issue with the original clasp. My issues with it is that looks a bit busy with all the writing and looks somewhat dated in my eyes...

But I love the fact that it integrates with the bracelet perfectly and is slim. the whole thing is very streamlined. The modern clasp looks, obviously, more modern. But doesn't really flow so well.

I don't specially like the new clasps for the adjustment. Maybe it is just me, but I don't like how it looks when extended: the section that gets exposed looks nothing line the links nor the clasp.

So in the end, I'm down to full and half links for the proper fit with either clasp. But it works for me.

Did you get the new clasps from a AD? I tried all the ones in my city but they all refuse to sell to me directly Omega parts when I give them the part numbers.
 
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Did you get the new clasps from a AD? I tried all the ones in my city but they all refuse to sell to me directly Omega parts when I give them the part numbers.
Did you ask to just leave your watch/bracelet with them and have them order and install it?
 
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Did you ask to just leave your watch/bracelet with them and have them order and install it?

Yes, they said they would not modify the watch with non-standard/non-original spec parts.
 
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Did you get the new clasps from a AD? I tried all the ones in my city but they all refuse to sell to me directly Omega parts when I give them the part numbers.
Strange that some have no problem adding non OEM parts and some won’t do it.
 
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Strange that some have no problem adding non OEM parts and some won’t do it.

ya 🙁 I am now on the hunt for the parts. I do have a new 0117STZ001154 clasp that I don’t use for my Seamaster 300MC, but I would rather not use it and get another one. Or the larger 0117STZ001159 clasp from the 8900 PO.

However I would still need the:

2x 0118ST1589 - Clasp to Bracelet connector links
4x 0124ST3307 - Screws
2x 0128ST0166 - Pins
 
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ya 🙁 I am now on the hunt for the parts. I do have a new 0117STZ001154 clasp that I don’t use for my Seamaster 300MC, but I would rather not use it and get another one. Or the larger 0117STZ001159 clasp from the 8900 PO.

However I would still need the:

2x 0118ST1589 - Clasp to Bracelet connector links
4x 0124ST3307 - Screws
2x 0128ST0166 - Pins
This is very strange ! I bought all those parts from a major AD in Amsterdam and they didn't make any troubles. They ordered them, they arrived in 2-4 weeks and I went to collect and pay for them...

But this was some time ago, back in mid 2019, when the clasps were all around 100 euros and the end pieces were around 40 a piece...
I know that recently the prices had gone up significantly, but maybe now Omega also changed their policy ? 😕

Back then, bracelets and bracelet parts could be ordered through the AD with no issue...
 
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This is very strange ! I bought all those parts from a major AD in Amsterdam and they didn't make any troubles. They ordered them, they arrived in 2-4 weeks and I went to collect and pay for them...

But this was some time ago, back in mid 2019, when the clasps were all around 100 euros and the end pieces were around 40 a piece...
I know that recently the prices had gone up significantly, but maybe now Omega also changed their policy ? 😕

Back then, bracelets and bracelet parts could be ordered through the AD with no issue...

No policy change. But I think people should realize that not every AD wants to be bothered ordering small bits and bobs for people. These are also parts that are going to be used to mod a bracelet, when the AD has no idea if these parts are right or not. If the person orders the wrong thing, there's a hassle of having to deal with that, and also they feel they might be liable of the bracelet falls apart at some later date. This is also why I'm sure many watchmakers don't want to do these mods either.

There are many reasons why an AD might not want to do this, and they are not obligated to accommodate these requests.
 
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No policy change. But I think people should realize that not every AD wants to be bothered ordering small bits and bobs for people. These are also parts that are going to be used to mod a bracelet, when the AD has no idea if these parts are right or not. If the person orders the wrong thing, there's a hassle of having to deal with that, and also they feel they might be liable of the bracelet falls apart at some later date. This is also why I'm sure many watchmakers don't want to do these mods either.

There are many reasons why an AD might not want to do this, and they are not obligated to accommodate these requests.
Makes sense. These are very valid reasons.

Maybe I just got lucky with my AD then. By the way, if I could ask Archer a question: could you please tell me the P/N for the pins/collars used in the removable links of the PO2500 bracelet 1580/952 ? I would like to order some new ones to replace some that are a bit too loose after all the link removal/installing... There's a lot of trial and error in getting the best fit from these bracelets. Many thanks for your time !
 
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This is still one of my favourites.
The case size, thickness, the simple design, and the size of the bracelet. Like everything about it.

Currently searching for a late version of the black one

 
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Makes sense. These are very valid reasons.

Maybe I just got lucky with my AD then. By the way, if I could ask Archer a question: could you please tell me the P/N for the pins/collars used in the removable links of the PO2500 bracelet 1580/952 ? I would like to order some new ones to replace some that are a bit too loose after all the link removal/installing... There's a lot of trial and error in getting the best fit from these bracelets. Many thanks for your time !

128ST2000 | STEEL PIN

201ST0055 | CASE-PIPE
 
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By the chance, if anyone is willing to sell the bracelet of the 42mm (1580/952), or anyone has seen any bracelet for sale, please let me know...


Thanks in advance!
 
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I finally got around to doing the adjustable clasp mod, with thanks to Blackdog for getting me in touch with a AD he knows who ordered the parts for me.

I ended up using the clasp from the Seamaster 300 Master co-axial to try and keep the weight down (no divers extension). You can see the size difference between the original and the 300 master co-axial. Even though the original one is longer, the adjustable one weighs more by around 6g (with the new links on it). I also had to replace a half link on my bracelet to a full size link for the size difference.

 
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Great watches being posted here. So, for the assistance of a dust-covered visitor from ye olde vintage forum - where does the overall preference of the modernists lie - orange bezel or black?
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Black is my preference... classic...

PO-2-24-16-2.jpg


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really? I have to admit I have not measured it but the 42 did seem larger than my 40mm subs. Has anyone measured and can confirm> I can't see why they would quote 42 mm or 45.5 if it is 2 mm smaller. That would seem a lot of "Delta" there. Or, when you say Bezel you mean the dial without the bezel?
It's my understanding that the PO wears more like a 40mm watch and the 42mm is made up by the case having the asymmetrical crown guards, much like the Speedmaster. Both the Speedmaster Pro and the FOIS (or the new Ed White) actually have the same size dial and bezel, yet the Pro is 42mm and the others are 39 and change (don't recall the exact).

I have measured my PO with calipers and the bezel is closer to 40mm than 42.
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I prefer the original clasp on the PO for the reasons you mention... sleek, fully integrated. To be honest I've had a bit of difficulty getting a perfect fit on this particular bracelet and I know the adjustable clasp modification would solve that but I like the original over the bulkier adjustable clasp. I think after adding and subtracting full and half links enough times, I have found a decent configuration on the original bracelet that is good for all seasons (enough room for swelling in the Summer).
Same here. At times, my PO wears a little loose, but I think the clasp integration is brilliant and would never change it.
 
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It's my understanding that the PO wears more like a 40mm watch and the 42mm is made up by the case having the asymmetrical crown guards, much like the Speedmaster. Both the Speedmaster Pro and the FOIS (or the new Ed White) actually have the same size dial and bezel, yet the Pro is 42mm and the others are 39 and change (don't recall the exact).

I have measured my PO with calipers and the bezel is closer to 40mm than 42.
I have measured, and on the 42mm PO, the bezel is 39.7mm.
 
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I have measured, and on the 42mm PO, the bezel is 39.7mm.
Like I said... closer to 40mm than 42mm. I measured as well 😉
 
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Same here. At times, my PO wears a little loose, but I think the clasp integration is brilliant and would never change it.
I wrote before that I am not a fan of the looks of the adjustable clasps when they're extended. So to me, the adjustability is not really an advantage.

I wore my 2500 with the 1154 adjustable clasp for about a week to see how I felt about it, and eventually I went back to the original clasp. It may not have micro adjustability, but the design and seamless integration to the bracelet are simply perfect.
I explored the clasp of the 8500 PO, which is 18mm and has the modern cosmetics. But frankly, for 220 euros, it has the same functionality of the original and it is not so cleanly designed.

I ordered a couple of additional half links to play a bit and get to the best possible fit, with some slack to accommodate the wrist changes. After all, that's how I wear the 300MC, the 2599.80 Chronodiver, the GMT Master and the Sea Dweller. For actual diving it's either a nato or isofrane anyway.
 
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Yeah I usually swap out to a NATO when I swim in the ocean. I haven't dived with the watch though, in fact I haven't dived in nearly 20 years now. Yikes! Time flies.
 
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I never used calipers to measure my 42 mm 2500. But for me, it wore much bigger than my six digit Submariner date.