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Is the Omega speedmaster better value than a Rolex Daytona?

DoctorEvil
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My biggest gripe with the Speedy has certainly been with the lack of adjustment possibilities of the bracelet... especially since we have no longer been able to use the half link from the 2254.50 OR since the new bracelet STILL does not offer micro adjustment options. 🤦[/QUOTE]

Agree with your comment re lack of micro adjustment for the bracelet. Omega has had plenty of time to develop their own system.
There's been many a time when I've worn a watch with a bracelet on a hot day and wished that I had an extra 3-4mm length on it just to make it a bit more comfortable.
 
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DoctorEvil DoctorEvil
My biggest gripe with the Speedy has certainly been with the lack of adjustment possibilities of the bracelet... especially since we have no longer been able to use the half link from the 2254.50 OR since the new bracelet STILL does not offer micro adjustment options. 🤦

Agree with your comment re lack of micro adjustment for the bracelet. Omega has had plenty of time to develop their own system.
There's been many a time when I've worn a watch with a bracelet on a hot day and wished that I had an extra 3-4mm length on it just to make it a bit more comfortable.[/QUOTE]

I was very surprised that Omega didn't add a micro-adjustment to the new version. At Omega's price point I think every bracelet should have a micro-adjustment, if the design allows it. Are there lots of people who don't want a micro-adjust?
 
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The Speedmaster is absolutely a better value than a Daytona, at MSRP. Once you get into the stupid money hype associated with the Daytona, no contest. Truly, I think you have to be an absolute moron to buy a Daytona at gray market prices. Sorry if I've offended any morons.
 
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Much better value and legibility, certainly, for the watch afficionado.

But much worse value, without a doubt, for the watch investor 😗
Think about dat giant markup when 20 years from now you'll pull it out of the safe and proceed to auction it !
 
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I have owned a Daytona for approx. 15 years or when they were £4500.
I think the whole Brand is being cheapened by blinded up models. I’m even thinking of selling it, which is against my grain of thinking.it’s basically a pension on your wrist.

I now own 3 Omegas and love the discreetness of them. My 1948 Seamaster Limited edition
(One of 1948 of which I own to - one for my Godson) and my 1960s Rosé Gold seamaster in mint condition.

can’t remember when I read but Omega was held in higher regards
In the 60s. That may come back one day.
 
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amcclell amcclell
kind of like asking is wayne gretzky better than gordie howe...


Respectfully disagree. Not at all similar

The Speedy vs. Daytona argument is debatable.

I wasn't a huge Gretzky fan per se, but Gretzky in his prime was probably the most dominant professional team sports athlete of all time. In other words, he dominated his sport more that Jordan did his, or Messi did his, etc. The only person I can think of that comes close would be Cheryl Miller during her time at USC, but that, of course, was collegiate sports. The stuff Gretzky was doing circa 84' was otherworldly, almost cartoonish.
 
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Yes some truth to that. The dial is rather complicated, too many words as well. I do however like the bracelet though, if only the newest speedy bracelet was abit more comfortable, that would have sealed the deal.

If the newest Speedy bracelet had an adjustable pushbutton micro-adjustable clasp like the Seamaster 300, it would be fantastic.

Actually, come to think about it, for the $13,150 retail Rolex charges for the SS Daytona, it should also come with Rolexes Glidelock system...!
 
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Respectfully disagree. Not at all similar

The Speedy vs. Daytona argument is debatable.

I wasn't a huge Gretzky fan per se, but Gretzky in his prime was probably the most dominant professional team sports athlete of all time. In other words, he dominated his sport more that Jordan did his, or Messi did his, etc. The only person I can think of that comes close would be Cheryl Miller during her time at USC, but that, of course, was collegiate sports. The stuff Gretzky was doing circa 84' was otherworldly, almost cartoonish.

I see your Gretzky and raise you Maradona in his prime.
 
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I see your Gretzky and raise you Maradona in his prime.
I hear he had great “hand skills”… 🙄
 
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let us look back 50yrs ago, more or less, compare the daytona and speedy at the production period of 65- 70 (after man stepped on the moon).

No doubt in terms of price (not necessarily the value and quality), rolex (steel daytona) wins 17x against speedy.

But at that time, NASA had just chosen the best watch for the apollo flight to the moon. so it goes without saying that the most durable and quality watch was and still is the speedy.

Fast forward to the 21st century. we ask ourselves if rolex daytona maintained its price after 50 years? well, unless you own the one and only paul newman daytona, PN has it. But let's compute how much have the old regular daytona '65 appreciated compared to the speedy 65-69 in today's market? you will be surprised of the value.

1965, Daytona was worth $6,000, and present the assumed value is at $115,000k = appreciation is 19x.

1965 Speedmaster was worth $350 then, and with assumed selling value at present is $15,000 = appreciation is 43x.😁😉

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spacemission
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let us look back 50yrs ago, more or less, compare the daytona and speedy at the production period of 65- 70 (after man stepped on the moon).

No doubt in terms of price (not necessarily the value and quality), rolex (steel daytona) wins 17x against speedy.

But at that time, NASA had just chosen the best watch for the apollo flight to the moon. so it goes without saying that the most durable and quality watch was and still is the speedy.

Fast forward to the 21st century. we ask ourselves if rolex daytona maintained its price after 50 years? well, unless you own the one and only paul newman daytona, PN has it. But let's compute how much have the old regular daytona '65 appreciated compared to the speedy 65-69 in today's market? you will be surprised of the value.

1965, Daytona was worth $6,000, and present the assumed value is at $115,000k = appreciation is 19x.

1965 Speedmaster was worth $350 then, and with assumed selling value at present is $15,000 = appreciation is 43x.😁😉

IMG_20210205_205706.jpg

A brilliant post 👍
 
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nevermind.

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mbeast
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Screwbacks Screwbacks
let us look back 50yrs ago, more or less, compare the daytona and speedy at the production period of 65- 70 (after man stepped on the moon).

No doubt in terms of price (not necessarily the value and quality), rolex (steel daytona) wins 17x against speedy.

But at that time, NASA had just chosen the best watch for the apollo flight to the moon. so it goes without saying that the most durable and quality watch was and still is the speedy.

Fast forward to the 21st century. we ask ourselves if rolex daytona maintained its price after 50 years? well, unless you own the one and only paul newman daytona, PN has it. But let's compute how much have the old regular daytona '65 appreciated compared to the speedy 65-69 in today's market? you will be surprised of the value.

1965, Daytona was worth $6,000, and present the assumed value is at $115,000k = appreciation is 19x.

1965 Speedmaster was worth $350 then, and with assumed selling value at present is $15,000 = appreciation is 43x.😁😉

IMG_20210205_205706.jpg

Pretty sure that's a later pricing guide, rather than a brochure from around 1970. The watch listed below the PN is from 1978. At the time of this guide, it seems the PN Daytona was already entering into mythic status and the Speedy was not appreciated at all. At the actual time of their production I imagine the purchase prices were far closer.
 
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Pretty sure that's a later pricing guide, rather than a brochure from around 1970. The watch listed below the PN is from 1978. At the time of this guide, it seems the PN Daytona was already entering into mythic status and the Speedy was not appreciated at all. At the actual time of their production I imagine the purchase prices were far closer.
Glad someone else has an eye for the detail and also noticed that. Completely agree. Even if we leave your observations to one side and consider the statement that the Daytona was worth $6k in 1965... A quick search shows that, according to the Census Bureau (US Department of Commerce), the median income of US families in 1965 was $6,900. That would make the Daytona one expensive watch at the time!
 
Rado63
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Having owned both the Daytona and a Speedmaster, it easy to see why the Speedmaster is in so many collections. The watch works well, it is very legible and manual wind, more consistent to the past. The Daytona is small it measures 39mm so for me with 8.5 wrist size it looks too small for me. Also the legibility of the Daytona dial is less, but, the movement 4130 is excellent. The Rolex is expensive and it stirs more emotions of owning something exclusive and more of a luxury. For the price pre owned, or even retail the Speedmaster Moonwatch is an incredible value and a really great watch. As mentioned before when you sell, you will probably get what you paid for the Daytona, and the moonwatch not likely to escalate in value as all Rolex references have done.
 
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