Is Neil Armstrong’s Speedie Reference Incorrect in First Man?

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Baz9614

·Oct 4, 2018

No, asymmetrical refers to the deepening of the case around the pushers to provide more protection. So a straight lug case is a symmetrical case with no protection around the pushers. See image below stolen from the web

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Oct 5, 2018

On launch day, July 16 1969, Neil Armstrong wore his Speedmaster chronograph at the right wrist
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Suit up sequence that day: 23:08 onwards
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Bstrum

·Oct 5, 2018

Just for clarification. The watch I showed which is 105.012-66 has the lugs but no deepening (?) So what does it all mean 😀

 

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haqq777

·Oct 5, 2018

SpeedyPhill

On launch day, July 16 1969, Neil Armstrong wore his Speedmaster chronograph at the right wrist
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Suit up sequence that day: 23:08 onwards
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That is a very interesting video, really enjoyed watching it. Thanks for sharing.

 

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Redbirdsfan70

·Oct 5, 2018

Bstrum

Just for clarification. The watch I showed which is 105.012-66 has the lugs but no deepening (?) So what does it all mean 😀

If by deepening you mean the left side of the watch is the same size as the right side of the watch then your watch is symmetrical and not asymmetrical and the crown and pushers are not protected by extra case material on that side of the watch. But casebands from 105.012-63 onward should be asymmetrical so yours should be asymmetrical too. It's hard to tell from the pic you shared but I'm pretty sure it should be asymmetrical. I am fairly certain all cases with the lyre lugs were asymmetrical.

 

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TLIGuy

·Oct 5, 2018

Omega reveals the iconic watches it lent for the making of the upcoming Neil Armstrong biopic First Man.

I'm trying to figure out what to make of the article. It says they used historic 105.003 and 105.012 watches but the watches shown in the article apparently provided by Omega appear to be modern reproductions.

Edited: Oct 5, 2018

 

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Redbirdsfan70

·Oct 5, 2018

I'll see what I can find out from my friends at the Atlanta OB. As I mentioned earlier here, the watches were provided by the Omega museum and the folks over at the Atlanta OB fitted them to the actors. Those pics do appear to show brand new watches and I could see in the movie not wanting to use a truly vintage piece because it would look well vintage but back then those watches would not have looked vintage so for the movie it's almost like they'd want NOS models or gently used safe queens. No patina for those! Armstrong's and Aldrin's watches wouldn't have any patina on them at the time.

 

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gemini4

·Oct 5, 2018·Hoarder Of Speed et alia

TLIGuy

Omega reveals the iconic watches it lent for the making of the upcoming Neil Armstrong biopic First Man.

I'm trying to figure out what to make of the article. It says they used historic 105.003 and 105.012 watches but the watches shown in the article apparently provided by Omega appear to be modern reproductions.

WatchCo Speedmasters 😁

 

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AdamS

·Oct 5, 2018

Does it look like a luminous step dial on the 105.012 in the article?

Perhaps a hint of Basel 2019.... no DON though.

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Oct 6, 2018

Omega will not be at BaselWorld 2019... and a LE 50 years Apollo 11 Speedmaster without a DON isn't a true tribute IMHO 🍿

 

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bazderome

·Oct 6, 2018

Could be a rough idea of what's coming for Apollo 11 50th... Just missing a DON and I'm all in !

 

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abrod520

·Oct 6, 2018

TLIGuy

Omega reveals the iconic watches it lent for the making of the upcoming Neil Armstrong biopic First Man.

I'm trying to figure out what to make of the article. It says they used historic 105.003 and 105.012 watches but the watches shown in the article apparently provided by Omega appear to be modern reproductions.

Those look like completely-overhauled pieces to me. The case on the "105.003" could be an FOIS-

(FOIS photo taken from Omega's website; it's a touch larger than the photo from Robb Report)

The "105.003" facets look a bit sharper but that's probably just the Photoshopping work they've done compared to that of the FOIS shot for their catalog. Considering everything else is brand new - dial, hands, bezel, even the pushers and probably the crown - my guess is perhaps a dressed-up FOIS using a service AML/long-index dial and handset.

As to the "105.012" -

Pushers and crown look different compared to the current Moonwatch (again from Omega's site) and I'm not sure about the availability of a stepped service dial these days, but it's obviously new as it's Luminova. But I doubt it's based on a 105.012 as Omega still produces and specs the short pushers for 105.012s in service, so why would they throw that out the window for this particular watch?

 

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eugeneandresson

·Oct 6, 2018

Anybody else also see the step-dial in this? With subregisters like the new ultraman LE step-dial (i.e. non of those tiny concentric circles)...

 

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abrod520

·Oct 6, 2018

eugeneandresson

Anybody else also see the step-dial in this?

Mentioned in my post above, I don’t know for sure if Omega had produced a stepped AML/long index service dial before but that’s what this appears to be. Aside from that, they haven’t really put much effort into making it look like a 105.012

 

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Redbirdsfan70

·Oct 6, 2018

So my buddy over at the Atlanta OB saw these watches and he told me the watches were a modern reference FOIS and modern reference Moonwatch but each had a period correct service dial. So, there you have it. The mystery is solved.

For those that missed my earlier post, the movie was filmed in Atlanta. Omega HQ sent the watches used in the movie to the Atlanta OB. The folks over at the Atlanta OB delivered the watches to the set and fitted them to the actors.

 

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abrod520

·Oct 6, 2018

Redbirdsfan70

the watches were a modern reference FOIS and modern reference Moonwatch but each had a period correct service dial.

So I was right. Thanks for finding out / clearing this up. Wonder if this means Omega would be open to configuring customers’ watches this way at request

 

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ext1

·Oct 6, 2018

Oh...wow 😁 basically omega used a franken FOIS for the movie!! With hesalite conversion!

 

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Redbirdsfan70

·Oct 6, 2018

That would be a very cool way to spice up a 3750.00 or newer reference for sure.

 

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Redbirdsfan70

·Oct 6, 2018

ext1

Oh...wow 😁 basically omega used a franken FOIS for the movie!! With hesalite conversion!

Nope, just a period correct service dial. It had a sapphire crystal.

 

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ext1

·Oct 6, 2018

Redbirdsfan70

period correct service dial

That doesn't quite add up. Period correct, as in, 2012 or whenever the FOIS was released? You can't add a 321 dial to a 1861 caliber without modification...