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Is Grand Seiko getting better?

  1. pongster Aug 20, 2019

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    Am Grand Seiko fan. I have three but all from heritage collection. Thinking of adding a dress watch (maybe the eichi) and/or a sports watch (diver or chrono).

    But i dont have a GS quartz yet.

    And i may have same attitude re quartz. I dont like hassle of battery change and risk of leakage. So the only pure quartz am keeping are my Technomarine and Casio G Shock. The rest ive removed the battery.

    I also keep the following quartz hybrids still with their batteries on:

    1. Snowflake Spring Drive
    2. BFK
    3. Genta-designed AGS
    4. Solar Diver
    5. Astron

    All from Seiko

    Am still a GS fan despite this thread. But because of this thread, am now leaning more towards 9F than the 9R. Still a fan of the 9S.
     
  2. Wiz Aug 20, 2019

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    I just checked mine today, some 12 days after setting it and it looks like it's just under 1 second ahead of my Apple watch now, so it seems that it'll be about +2 seconds a month fast. Not the best I've seen, but way within the 15 secs/month that GS quote and I'm very happy with that. Of course, one downside to Spring Drive is that you can't regulate it, but as accuracy seems to vastly surpasses any watch that you can regulate, it's not really much to give up. Servicing infrastructure remains a concern, but having no battery to change means the seals don't need to be disturbed and given that accuracy isn't reliant upon internal friction or the viscosity of the internal lubrication, service intervals could theoretically be extremely long with no loss of accuracy. Other accurate watches I have include an Omega Gen 1 X33, a Breitling Aerospace Evo and a Luminox 1945. The Breitling is accurate to within 5 secs a year, so definitely outperforms the Spring Drive (the Evos are thermo-comp), but the Omega gains about 5 secs a month and the Luminox about 10 secs, so the Spring Drive comfortably out-performs both of those. The crystal aging/selection process GS describe seems to achieve its purpose, at least in my personal experience and anecdotally from other users on the net. I imagine that their +/- 15 secs a months is very much a worst case scenario to minimise the chance of complaints. For no rational reason, I think I'd have been quite disappointed if mine had turned out to be close to that.
     
  3. guaranteed.rohu Aug 20, 2019

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    Anyone have experience with these grand seiko quartz anti-magnetic pieces?

    I absolutely love the aesthetic - would probably have already bought one if it was mechanical or spring drive

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  4. leepxy Aug 20, 2019

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    the engineering behind the GS spring drive is pretty amazing....
     
  5. Dsloan Aug 21, 2019

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    I managed to find a Grand Seiko AD while on vacation. The SBGK005 looks AMAZING in person - a really stunning dial design. Out of my price range, but fun to dream about.
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  6. Lostpuppy116 Aug 25, 2019

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    I concur. The dial has a nice "pop" to it with the hands and leather strap. Just trying to make the decision easier... all are great options.
     
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  7. ewand Oct 10, 2019

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  8. Frunkinator Keep tickin & tockin, work it all around the clock Oct 10, 2019

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  9. seadragon Oct 23, 2019

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    I am definitely a Seiko fan, have Presages, Alpinist, GS and they are beautiful. My tastes are varied, so anything from a diver to something classy. I can appreciate the workmanship and design
     
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  10. Lostpuppy116 Oct 23, 2019

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    Love that red or wood face high-heat in the middle.
     
  11. seadragon Oct 23, 2019

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    Thanks, it's the new SBGH269. Am waiting for my custom strap to be made and then it will go on my wrist.
     
  12. Dsloan Oct 23, 2019

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    I got to try the blue-faced Elegance model on in person earlier this year. It is really stunning. With the current shenanigans with Rolex, I wonder if more watch enthusiasts might look to Grand Seiko, especially for dress watches in the $4K-$7K range.
     
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  13. Lostpuppy116 Oct 23, 2019

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    You are made of sterner stuff than I. I would definitely be wearing that bad boy with the bracelet, as I would not wait for the strap.
     
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  14. Lostpuppy116 Oct 23, 2019

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    I have no experience with them but I wish I did... The one looks a little ghostly, so I would go with the black. Have to see in person to be sure.
     
  15. seadragon Oct 23, 2019

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    Haha you are right. I have some other watches to wear, but it is torture looking at it every day and knowing I still have about 3 weeks before my strap comes.
     
  16. Lostpuppy116 Oct 23, 2019

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    Sounds like a form of purgatory. But that fine looking blue Grand Seiko and spring drive Presage may tide you over until the strap arrives. I do love that smooth sweeping seconds seen on a spring drive.
     
  17. Lostpuppy116 Oct 23, 2019

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    All this talk of Grand Seiko spring drive has me hankering for mine, so I put on my sbga375g.
     
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  18. Jim W Oct 25, 2019

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    Here’s my Snowflake, my favourite Grand Seiko:

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  19. Lostpuppy116 Oct 25, 2019

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    I do love the snowflake. I think I prefer the gold markers version, but both are real beauties. And as always that super smooth sweeping seconds hand just takes the cake. I am starting to hanker for my sbga375g already.
     
  20. Mpnunes Oct 27, 2019

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    Looking for a GMT and really starting to warm to Grand Seiko. Tried these 2 on today
     
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