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Is an OLDER or NEWER Speedmaster a better Investment?

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Im not quite an owner yet.. just trying to get my head around the myriad of model numbers and variants.
It got me thinking...

If I spend £XXX on an Older Speedmaster Pro......
or I spend £XXX on a new Speedmaster Pro....

Which watch in 10-20 years time would have increased in value more?

Something special is often about distinguishing factors that make it different than the standard models.. so are there particular Speedmaster Pros that are more collectible than others?

Thanks for your thoughts, Al
 
abrod520
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Depends on your definition of older, really - do you mean a '90s 3570.50 is older, or do you mean '60s or '70s?
 
airbag
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Thats a very helpful resource.. any like that for post 78 models?
 
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abrod520 abrod520
Depends on your definition of older, really - do you mean a '90s 3570.50 is older, or do you mean '60s or '70s?
Hi abrod520... thanks for the reply.
Yes was trying to feel this out...
The watch would be a daily wear.. so wish for something practical and guess I was thinking 70s - 90s.
 
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airbag airbag
Hi abrod520... thanks for the reply.
Yes was trying to feel this out...
The watch would be a daily wear.. so wish for something practical and guess I was thinking 70s - 90s.

I'd say that an older, but post-moon 145.022 or 3590.50 with a tritium dial would probably appreciate a bit more than a newer (super)luminova dial 3570.50 or brand-new 311.30. They run around 2.5k for a top example on a bracelet.

However, if you want daily wearability and value appreciation, go for a 145.022-69 pre-moon. Not hard to find with a little research and hunting, and still not a whole lot more expensive than a few-year-old Speedmaster.
 
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I don't think either will appreciate meaningfully (as in, at a much greater pace than general inflation) over the long haul, as 70's 145.022s are ubiquitous and modern Speedies even more so. If you're looking for a daily wearer, don't look at it as an investment. Feel secure that their values are unlikely to crater overnight, but none of the post-1969 Speedmasters are likely to present compelling returns over time.
 
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If you call it, it will come.....I think the best advice is to buy the watch you love, and you will know that when you see it. I bet all those quartz watches that most people look down on, or those gold pornstar watches that most people sneer at are the ones that will be super popular down the line and everyone will be wishing they had bought a stack of them for the handful of pounds you can pick them up for now, but if you don t like them, what is the point of buying one?....So just buy the one that sings to you most and enjoy it.
 
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Post 78's are not so interesting, valuable or variable.
 
airbag
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Appreciate the info thank you. very helpful.
How often would you expect to service a pre-78 model and is this something that many dealers can easily accomplish.. parts etc?
Im not far from Manchester and Liverpool in the UK.

Is a pre-78 as practical on a daily basis as a 90's model? Im assuming not.
 
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airbag airbag
Is a pre-78 as practical on a daily basis as a 90's model? Im assuming not.
Absolutely. The 861 is robust, easy to service, and has plentiful parts availability.
 
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bazamu ChicagoFrog
Absolutely. The 861 is robust, easy to service, and has plentiful parts availability.
+1
 
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bazamu ChicagoFrog
Absolutely. The 861 is robust, easy to service, and has plentiful parts availability.

+2.
 
airbag
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Thanks very much for the information everyone.
Starting to get my head around this... slowly!

So did 861 run from approx 68'-96' ?
Did Super-Luminova arrive in about 98'?

In the "homework" ive done on this "soaking wet saturday" ... I seem to be gravitating toward the 3570 and 3572.50 models..
Yeah did I mention I was in the UK... I probably should be looking at the Seamaster range with the crappy weather we have here!
 
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airbag airbag
The watch would be a daily wear.. so wish for something practical and guess I was thinking 70s - 90s.

This right here says to me that you want a Speedmaster as new as possible, consistent with your budget, and who cares what it's worth in 20 years because by that time you'll have someone to pass it on to. The sentimental value will be high regardless, so why get money involved as well? Goodness knows that a chronograph isn't an inexpensive service, especially from Omega.

Get the best technology you can afford and wear the hell out of it!!

Tom
 
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Hi tom. Thanks for your comments. Your probably right... If I can pass a speedmaster onto my boy then that would be great satisfaction in itself!

Odd thing is I can afford a new one...
Just kinda liked the appeal of an older pre-turn-of-century model with the manual wind..
I started my quest for a luxury watch searching for a waterproof auto watch with a date functionality.. But during the past 8month search, The speedmaster just has me by its spell!

Probably none of us need a watch like this as a solo timepiece.. What with mobile phones always to hand...
The relationship that you get from the manual wind watch has to be very different than an auto... Your helping to keep it alive! The history of the speedmaster model, and obviously aesthetics of its design. I can see why watch collectors have more than 1 speedmaster.

I'm thinking mid to late 90s will get me late technology with the feeling Its not so new. Will keep up the research..
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My advice is buy the 3570 and make it a vintage watch buy wearing it yourself everyday.
 
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