Interesting numbers..or not? Vintage Seamaster

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Hello and thank you to the Omega Forum posters, answerers, admins and lurkers...for being who you are.
Watchies, watchmasters, watchophiles, horophiles, chronometrophiles, horologists all.
I inherited an Omega Seamaster about 4 or 5 years ago from my Grandfather who died 40 years ago when he was 72. He was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Australian Army and served in New Guinea in WWII.
My mother (his daughter who is now 84) gave it to me even though my Grandfather gave it to my Dad who is 88. Dad didn't mind, he is not bothered about much these days.
Today is the first time I have worn it and I like it.
Now, finally, after 5 years of ignoring it, I am intrigued by it.
I have spent most of the day trying to identify what year it was made with no luck.
I thought the very distinctive numbers (Art Deco style?) would make it easy but nay.
Upon close inspection I realised today that the watch band is a Speidel (not Omega) and that is one of the reasons I have never worn it before as I don't like it.
I am gathering it probably came with a leather band.
It is keeping good time since 5am and now it is 5pm so I am happy to keep wearing it but I will make a new band for it.
I was wondering if you the members of this great and good Omega watch appreciation society could help me pinpoint the year or decade?
I like the long and thin numbers 3, 6, 9 (upside down 6) and 12.
Also the arms are a bit thinner than the average Omega Seamaster arms I think, but I wouldn't really know.
Otherwise I am probably not going to open the case back to identify it unless it stops which I don't think it will.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
I have one more hypothetical question, If you owned this watch would you get the dial cleaned to smooth out the patina? It seems like it would need some careful cleaning but it might make the surface look more uniform, would it?
OK one more, is Omega a very successful company? It seems like it makes a million watches a year and none of them are inexpensive...but they have fans like you good people...so I am guessing they are BIG.
Cheers and thanks!
PS the photos are a bit wonky but everything looks pretty symmetrical when eyeballing it.
The 3 and 9 pips went south but they are not rolling around inside I don't think.

Another question, do all Omega watches have identical numerals for 6 and 9 (rotated 180), I am guessing yes from my searches today.


Last question,which sort of caseback do you reckon is it? a Press In or Monocoque or Unicoc or Unishell?

If you were me would you try to get off a press-in case (if it is) just to get the ID numbers? At risk of ruining the watch?

Note the photo is blurred but the symbol is not.

“I awoke this morning with devout thanksgiving for my friends, the old and the new.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson

“I would maintain that thanks are the highest form of thought; and that gratitude is happiness doubled by wonder.”
G.K. Chesterton
Here is a better image of the crown.
May I please ask DaveK if yours is the same or similar?
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Hi and welcome on board!

Good move to stop ignoring the gift from your grandfather!

Watch is from +/- 1960 and seems to be in original condition (not totally sure if the crown is original)

Watch is well worn and maybe had a water damage in the past, that could have caused the light/dark dial look and the diminishing of parts of the lume, for example on "9". Normally a dial cleaning is not possible and could worsen the condition.

Dial furniture is a very rare configuration, reference number could be 14725

So first step is the get a nice watchband and if you should decide to wear the watch on a regular basis a service should be carried out.

Depending on your location you can get recommanditons for an independent watchmaker to carry out the service.

Enjoy your watch!
 
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Welcome to the forum, you should know dial cleaning is not an option on vintage watches- what you see is not « dirt » that can be removed but alterations in the chemistry of the top varnish. «cleaning » in most instances is a destructive process which is only done when the dial is so damaged it needs to be entirely repainted. that’s far from the case here.
Most people here would tell you to just leave it as is and enjoy it for what it is, a nice heirloom.
Once you change that strap it will take on a new personality.

Second, you should not try to open it yourself, as you might risk damaging that beautiful case back. However if you want more information on the date of the watch you need to bring it to a professional watchmaker to open it and take pictures for you of what’s inside. Do not take it to a jeweler- they don’t do watches on a daily basis and might cause irreparable damage too.

If you say where you are located / country and region perhaps people can help with a referral. Many people ship watches out to get them serviced because trust is the key aspect.

PS and yes, Omega is a big company, they are now positioned as luxury, but they made all sorts of watches. Yours is not extremely valuable from a monetary view point but it’s sentimental value of course is pricelesst and it’s very good quality so you should enjoy it.
 
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I agree with @Passover that the crown is probably not original, but it is the correct style and the only difference is the shape of the Omega symbol, so I wouldn't let that bother me. I had an identical Seamaster that I foolishly sold before I really knew what I was doing. Mine was dated to about 1961 and had the excellent 552 movement inside. Personally I don't think the case is that bad condition-wise. It's a front opener / monocoque so you won't be able to remove the back.
 
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All right on above. Here is mine, a 14765-2 dating to 1961

 
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Mine's a date version 14770 SC-61:
and now I'm sad about not having that groovy 3...
 
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... and now I'm sad about not having that groovy 3...
The 3 is my favourite, you can come visit it on weekends
 
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It's a nice watch, lose the Speidel bracelet, get a nice strap, have the watch serviced, and wear with pride!

Try searching the forums for watchmaker reccomendations in your area, if it turns up nothing, start a new thread asking for one. You want to take this to an independent watchmaker with an Omega parts account. Getting a service is important, because all the oils have dried up. Running this watch now is a bit like driving a car without changing the oil in a decade.

Re: the thin hands. Seamasters came in sportier and dressier versions. Yours is of the more dressy style, thus the thin hands. The dress Seamasters were later called DeVilles.

Well crafted first post, BTW. Welcome to the forum!
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Otherwise I am probably not going to open the case back to identify it unless it stops which I don't think it will.
You should not open it, as there is no caseback.

It is a one piece case. The movement comes out of the front of the watch after the crown/stem and crystal are removed. Only a watchmaker with the proper tools should attempt this.

Very nice heirloom piece,
gatorcpa
 
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Hi and welcome on board!
Thank you!
Hi and welcome on board!
Watch is from +/- 1960 and seems to be in original condition (not totally sure if the crown is original)
Watch is well worn and maybe had a water damage in the past, that could have caused the light/dark dial look and the diminishing of parts of the lume, for example on "9". Normally a dial cleaning is not possible and could worsen the condition.
Thanks, that is great to know the date, I won't get the dial cleaned I will take your advice and wear it with happy memories of my Grandfather and a new watchband when I get a moment to research which one to get, thanks again!
I am on the Gold Coast in Queensland Australia and it was hot in the sun yesterday and I couldn't see the camera screen when I was taking the photos but I will do better next time.
 
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Second, you should not try to open it yourself, as you might risk damaging that beautiful case back. However if you want more information on the date of the watch you need to bring it to a professional watchmaker to open it and take pictures for you of what’s inside. Do not take it to a jeweler- they don’t do watches on a daily basis and might cause irreparable damage too.
PS and yes, Omega is a big company, they are now positioned as luxury, but they made all sorts of watches. Yours is not extremely valuable from a monetary view point but it’s sentimental value of course is pricelesst and it’s very good quality so you should enjoy it.
Thanks for that information, I will find a professional watchmaker and I won't try to open the case back. I am going to find out more about Omega and why they are so successful. My watch is still going this morning and has the correct time even though I took it off to sleep which I was worried would stop it. Cool!
 
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I agree with @Passover that the crown is probably not original, but it is the correct style and the only difference is the shape of the Omega symbol, so I wouldn't let that bother me. I had an identical Seamaster that I foolishly sold before I really knew what I was doing. Mine was dated to about 1961 and had the excellent 552 movement inside. Personally I don't think the case is that bad condition-wise. It's a front opener / monocoque so you won't be able to remove the back.
Thanks for that information. Looks like I couldn't open it even if I tried! That is good because I have tools and not afraid to use them! I will try to take a better photo of the crown.
 
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All right on above. Here is mine, a 14765-2 dating to 1961
Wow! Thanks for the identification, that is it! pips intact, no patina, what a beauty! Cheers thanks DaveK from another Dave!
 
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Mine's a date version 14770 SC-61: and now I'm sad about not having that groovy 3...
Wow, great watch! Great photo too! I love the border around the date and I think having the date is very handy on a watch. Thank you for your comment about the numeral 3 which I like also because it is different...even weird...like me haha.
 
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It's a nice watch, loose the Speidel bracelet, get nice strap, have the watch serviced, and wear with pride!
Try searching the forums for watchmaker reccomendations in your area, if it turns up nothing, start a new thread asking for one. You want to take this to an independent watchmaker with an Omega parts account. Getting a service is important, because all the oils have dried up. Running this watch now is a bit like driving a car without changing the oil in a decade.
Re: the thin hands. Seamasters came in sportier and dressier versions. Yours is of the more dressy style, thus the thin hands. The dress Seamasters were later called DeVilles.Well crafted first post, BTW. Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for the information and the welcome to the forum and the compliment for my first post!
Yes I will definitely only use a proper watchmaker and now I know he/she needs a Omega parts account, thank you. I get the logic of not running it until I get a service and I will now, sadly, take your advice. It is 8.50am on Sat morning so it has been running for 28hrs, I wonder when it will stop? Thanks again!
 
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Thanks for the information and the welcome to the forum and the compliment for my first post!
Yes I will definitely only use a proper watchmaker and now I know he/she needs a Omega parts account, thank you. I get the logic of not running it until I get a service and I will now, sadly, take your advice. It is 8.50am on Sat morning so it has been running for 28hrs, I wonder when it will stop? Thanks again!

Don't worry about running it a day or so. I am sure it will be fine. Also, I think your dial will look better after the crystal is polished.
 
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Don't worry about running it a day or so. I am sure it will be fine. Also, I think your dial will look better after the crystal is polished.
Cool, OK, I will put it back on. Thanks!
 
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I have a watchmaker for you. In Brisbane. Send me a private message. Kind regards. Achim
 
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Wow! Thanks for the identification, that is it! pips intact, no patina, what a beauty! Cheers thanks DaveK from another Dave!
Could be the lighting, but mine has stainless furniture and yours has gold?