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Inherited this Vacheron & Constantin pocket watch, curious to find out more about it

  1. CylonDevice

    CylonDevice Oct 29, 2019

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    Hopefully this is the right subforum to post this.

    A while back I inherited this pocket watch along with some other family heirlooms, and am just now getting around to checking it out. A friend suggested I post on here in order to get some more information on what I have. I know a bit about watches, but nothing about pocket watches, or anything this old.

    It runs and keeps time. I was told the case is made of platinum. I'm not necessarily looking to sell this watch, as it has sentimental value, but I would be curious how much its worth, as well as when it was made and what model it is etc. If anyone knows anything about what I have here it would be greatly appreciated :) Many thanks in advance!
     
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  2. Dedalus05

    Dedalus05 Oct 29, 2019

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    Not an expert. Wait for someone else to chime in. But this is not a Vacheron & Constantin pocket watch to my eye. The 7 & 5 overlapping the second counter, and the 0 hanging south of the 1 at ten o'clock look sloppy to me.
     
  3. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Oct 29, 2019

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    Photos needed of the inside of the back of the watch, caseback and movement.

    Then we may be able to give you some info.
     
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  4. MyVintageOmega

    MyVintageOmega Oct 29, 2019

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    Out of all the avenues that one could go through to authenticate such a watch, seems your looking for a one eyed blind fish to nibble.If it was real, it's the sloppiest I have ever seen any where.
     
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  5. CylonDevice

    CylonDevice Oct 29, 2019

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    I will have it opened and take photos to see what else can be ascertained...I did not consider the possibility of it being fake, it seems like an odd sort of thing to bother making a fake of...but then again, i don't know much about these things.

    EDIT: Im googling other V&C pocket watches and it seems like the overlapping numbers arent uncommon Idk

    https://jewelry.ha.com/itm/timepiec...atinum-pocket-watch-circa-1928/a/5028-61218.s

    http://vintageoldpocketwatches.com/...stantin_platinum_pocket_watch_circa_1918.html

    https://www.rubylane.com/item/669694-1255/Spectacular-18K-Gold-Vacheron-Constantin-Pocket
     
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  6. MyVintageOmega

    MyVintageOmega Oct 29, 2019

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    Extremely valuable rare watches are just the thing that get faked. Any vintage can show charchteristics that can perhaps make one question if it's real or not. I am only saying from the images posted and a gut feel that I tend to rely on (for me) it is way off. If it is real, than it is a very valuable item. Even more so as the watch maker may have been sleep walking at the time he made it.

    I looked at your links, at the gold and platinum pieces. Can you find one with a silver case with tarnished gold numerals. Again, it is only the fact that it was a 1st time post with 2 images that first causes me to drop a flag on it. Keep it safe and I do hope it is real so you can have one amazing Christmas.
     
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  7. Evitzee

    Evitzee Oct 29, 2019

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    Don't be so quick to dismiss this. The dial is a bit dodgy but who knows what the history is? We need some pics of movement and the hallmarks on the inside of the case. Many vintage dials have tarnished numerals, it happens.
     
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  8. Screwbacks

    Screwbacks Oct 30, 2019

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    probably 1930s artdeco based on hands and markers, solid silver case. subject to view of the inside caseback and caliber.
     
  9. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Oct 30, 2019

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    I'd be surprised if it turns out to be silver. The hue is different from silver, IMO.
     
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  10. ilayd

    ilayd Oct 30, 2019

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    It could be legit, basing it only on the first link you provided (and assuming the one in that link is real). The indices are quite similar. However, I would be almost certain that its be redialed. Look at the font consistency between the one you linked and your photo. The ones you have are quite irregular and misshapen from one to another. Also, as Dedalus mentioned, the 0 hanging lower at the 10 o'clock looks like it was reapplied incorrectly at some point.
     
  11. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Oct 30, 2019

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    I agree.

    Best case scenario; Platinum. Worst; Nickel.
     
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  12. PHPHD

    PHPHD Oct 30, 2019

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    Looks pretty good/ not a redial imo. Subdials look good. Fonts for these pocket watches have typically been varied.

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  13. CylonDevice

    CylonDevice Oct 31, 2019

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    Was able to open the back today and take some pictures! Hope this helps
     
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  14. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Nov 1, 2019

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    Definitely V&C genes in that movement. Although the wheels don't have the wolf's teeth profile :(.

    Possibly a 17''' caliber.

    V&C made many movements like this around the turn of the 20th century. Many were exported to the USA and cased locally for railroad use.

    I can't make out the "hallmarks" (as there are no Swiss/English/French etc markings), but they appear to be consistent with a case made in the USA.

    The dial has been redone at some stage, this wasn't unusual and was sometimes done when a watch was serviced if the dial had been damaged.
     
  15. MikeMan2727

    MikeMan2727 Nov 1, 2019

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    Platinum
     
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  16. MikeMan2727

    MikeMan2727 Nov 1, 2019

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    Good call! :thumbsup:
     
  17. rolokr

    rolokr Nov 5, 2019

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    Nice watch, %100 VC !
     
  18. DaveK

    DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Nov 5, 2019

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    It looks a little like platinum was written in a shaky hand though. Wouldn't a platinum case have a bit more flair?
     
  19. Interstatetime

    Interstatetime Nov 30, 2019

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    Absolutely VC and absolutely typical platinum mark...absolutely platinum.
     
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  20. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Nov 30, 2019

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