Impulse 2998-3 purchase. Now looking for some guidance.

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Hi,

Thanks for taking a look at this msg. I recently purchased a 2998-3 impulsively from an online auction website. Images are attached. Looking for any and all thoughts (good,bad and ugly) on the watch. Its authenticity, what to change to keep, where/who to go to get it serviced etc etc. Value for insurance purposes. I'm in the UK.

Thanks for reading.

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Ouch Von Ouche

 
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Suggest you head over to Speedmaster 101 and see for yourself. Then come back here with informed questions and better pictures.
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The dial looks nice....hands are clearly not matching but not the worst problem. All depends on price.
 
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Suggest you head over to Speedmaster 101 and see for yourself.
Hi Larry,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've been through the the 101 website in detail and max zoom. I think the watch is good but as a noob, and this an impulse buy, I wanted to get a 2nd/3rd and 4th opinion from fellow enthusiasts.
Thanks
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The dial looks nice....hands are clearly not matching but not the worst problem. All depends on price.
Agreed, The hands are off and its a non original strap. The 101 website suggest a target of 5K for Fair and 10K for good. That's another thing Im trying to gauge. Is the watch fair or good? Thanks
 
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I am suggestible I suppose. Having read elephantcage's comment I cannot unsee those hands.

Still, if it was a "real deal" then you have yourself a daily wearer and could later seek out some hands for it.

Thank for joining the Forum and the photos are appreciated.
 
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Not an expert, but I have spent a lot of time looking at bezels recently. Do you have the watch in person? As in the photos the bezel looks weird to me. The dots are blending into the numbers at 150-170.

The 130 and 140 also look a little undefined as do some of the other numbers.
 
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Not an expert, but I have spent a lot of time looking at bezels recently. Do you have the watch in person? As in the photos the bezel looks weird to me. The dots are blending into the numbers at 150-170.

The 130 and 140 also look a little undefined as do some of the other numbers.
 
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AHW - Thanks for the detailed spot. I think it's wear and tear. Ive taken snip of a legit bezel (on right) from the 101 website next to mine (left side) . You can see how the 70 is quite thin and numbers seem to get fatter as they go round the bezel. The dots above the 150, 160 and 170 is really close and could have blended with the amount of wear on the watch. But looking at how the boldness of the numbers increases as the numbers increase has reassured me that it is the original bezel. But the hands are stinkers for sure.

@All. Any suggestions on how I would go about getting original hands and what they would cost. Or how I should go about finding out?

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply
 
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Check those hands for radium.
Service crown and pushers.
Try getting a good photo of the bezel, in focus on 100 and 150
 
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Now we live in the days when the DON bezels are reproduced and banged up by some. Scary. I don't like scrutinizing watches to the degree necessary now. I hope that doesn't hurt values for all....simple fear of getting burned. But...that dial (and it looks legit to me) makes up for some smaller issues. It is not "fair." 10k usd seems like a very reasonable price to me. Have the hands re lumed by a pro to match the indices, and you have a gorgeous 2998 that you can actually wear daily. Hell, I'd be willing to spend some money on that watch. You never said how much you paid.

I say even if the bezel is bogus, the case, mvmnt and dial are worth 7500...maybe more. Get the hands done and enjoy it.
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Check those hands for radium.
Service crown and pushers.
Try getting a good photo of the bezel, in focus on 100 and 150
Hi, Thanks for the tips. I will try and get pictures of the watch later this wk.
 
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AHW - Thanks for the detailed spot. I think it's wear and tear. Ive taken snip of a legit bezel (on right) from the 101 website next to mine (left side) . You can see how the 70 is quite thin and numbers seem to get fatter as they go round the bezel. The dots above the 150, 160 and 170 is really close and could have blended with the amount of wear on the watch. But looking at how the boldness of the numbers increases as the numbers increase has reassured me that it is the original bezel. But the hands are stinkers for sure.

@All. Any suggestions on how I would go about getting original hands and what they would cost. Or how I should go about finding out?

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply
https://omegaforums.net/threads/new-do90-bezel-variants-for-omega-speedmaster-2998.193484/

It's worth using this thread to check the bezel carefully, I think your watch has an original B1 type bezel and the example used for comparison has a later/replaced bezel if this research is correct.
 
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Now we live in the days when the DON bezels are reproduced and banged up by some. Scary. I don't like scrutinizing watches to the degree necessary now. I hope that doesn't hurt values for all....simple fear of getting burned. But...that dial (and it looks legit to me) makes up for some smaller issues. It is not "fair." 10k usd seems like a very reasonable price to me. Have the hands re lumed by a pro to match the indices, and you have a gorgeous 2998 that you can actually wear daily. Hell, I'd be willing to spend some money on that watch. You never said how much you paid.

I say even if the bezel is bogus, the case, mvmnt and dial are worth 7500...maybe more. Get the hands done and enjoy it.
 
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https://omegaforums.net/threads/new-do90-bezel-variants-for-omega-speedmaster-2998.193484/

It's worth using this thread to check the bezel carefully, I think your watch has an original B1 type bezel and the example used for comparison has a later/replaced bezel if this research is correct.
Hi Sharp, That's a great link and I think your right. You can see the B1 has the fatter font as well as the line between the 100 and 110 being closer to the 100. Many Thanks for sharing.
 
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Hi, I dont want to say what I paid for it (not sure if that's poor etiquette, apols if it is). But I will say I will get the hands looked at and I will wear it and enjoy it. Again thanks for your input much apprecaited.
 
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I'm not a noob but I haven't handled many 2998s.

If I had seen this at a good price, I would have been a buyer. I think it's a solid good, maybe better. Of course, there are limited photos.

The case looks great. There's half the battle.

Can't see stains on the dial in these photos. Assuming no stains, look at the lume. The lume is so intact and color so nice, I'd question if it was relumed. I don't think so. The 5, 7, 8 , 10 and 11 o'clock lume have slightly shrunk around the edges, which is a good sign of originality. The lume doesn't bleed over edges. If it was a relume, it was done well and not recently. I think it's original, but judging lume is not my strength. I think the dial is good+, at least.

The bezel is tricky. To me, it looks legit. We sometimes see fatter font at the end of production runs. The scratches along the upper left make me nervous, as that is what we'd see if someone were aging a bezel. But it's also where cuff wear happens, especially if wearing a heavier fabric. If real, it's not a bad looking bezel, and certainly does not distract from the watch.

Service crown and pushers are acceptable, as it helps if you want to wear it and shows it was cared for. Movement is clean with nice screw heads. I did not check ser number but assume it is correct.

Hands are a little bummer, but hands often let down an otherwise great watch. These aren't moldy or scratched or rusty. That's positive. But they pop out. The sub hands and chrono are so unmarred that they are suspiciously clean. It would not surprise me if all the hands were replaced at Service, since this was clearly serviced. But it does not look Frankenstein.

As Spacefruit says, older Speedys have been around awhile so we should not be as harsh on them as a 105 or 145.

You asked for an opinion, so this is just one person's opinion. I like it and think you did well, assuming you didn't overpay. Fingers crossed other more experienced members don't find issues.
 
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We don’t see the dust cover and I see no SN on the movement as well as some damage. Need better movement pics. My view is that this is a put together watch.