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  1. ulackfocus Oct 8, 2012

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    I think that's the same watch as in a very recent post in the recommended eBay watch thread.
     
  2. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 8, 2012

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    Thanks all!
     
  3. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 9, 2012

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    So, the seller here says he thinks this dial has been repainted. Seems to me to be a pretty good job?

    OMEGA CONSTELLATION VINTAGE BLACK DIAL CAL. 561 MENS T/T DRESS WATCH!!!: http://bit.ly/ROnkNq

    Could if be the glossiness of the black that gives it away? The fonts seem good, the MOY seems good.

    Sure, the case has been polished to buggery and the movement doesn't look great either, but what is wrong with the dial?
     
  4. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 10, 2012

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    The dial looks original to me.

    The problem is the wrong caseback, it's stamped 14902 but the case and lugs are in the shape of a 14393
     
  5. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 10, 2012

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    Good to know! I was really struggling to identify the flaw. I quite like the patina on it. The black dials seem to have the nicest patina.
     
  6. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 10, 2012

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    The coloring of the parts is always something to look at with vintage Omegas. On this example, the rotor and bridge look to be the same color, which the rest of the movement is more "pink". This tells me that somwhere there is another 551 or 561 movement that was cleaned with lighter fluid (that's one of the ways the color gets stripped out like that) that's missing its autowind parts. Although the seller is located in my hometown, this watch has all the earmarks of a "Mumbai Special", that is a watch that was assembled from genuine parts in an Indian horological chop shop.

    The case wear on this one seems to be extreme. Some idiot took a wire brush polisher to the whole back of the watch to remove some scratches. The black dial might well be original, but the original lume has been removed. Same is true of the hands.

    The wear on even a heavily used watch is going to be uniform and even. Patina on movement parts should be also be uniform if major parts replacement were not necessary.

    This example just rubs me the wrong way, even though I do think the dial may be correct.
    gatorcpa
     
  7. alam Oct 10, 2012

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    That's an understatement ::jumpy:: It reminds me the first time I replaced the rubber brake pads on my bicycle :D
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    But the good thing is now handled with white gloves! :D
     
  8. Mothra Oct 10, 2012

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    The lighter fluid bit was very interesting, thanks... :-D
     
  9. MKelley Oct 10, 2012

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    With my limited knowledge on Constellations, learned here & reading Desmond's blog, I whole heartedly agree with Gator:thumbsup:
     
  10. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 11, 2012

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    Maybe it was done with this:
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1350012496.206418.jpg
     
  11. fjf Oct 13, 2012

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    What about this one?. To me it looks like redial (the A in "AUTOMATIC" look pointed, not flat), but the pics are poor:

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  12. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 13, 2012

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    I think I saw that one on the Bay, and the description said it was a redial.
     
  13. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 13, 2012

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    I meant to add that I think the last "n" in Constellation is wrong also.
     
  14. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 14, 2012

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  15. MKelley Oct 14, 2012

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    :eek: good grief...I'll say.