I am considering a Rolex Datejust 1601.

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With this type of watch, I get the "grand pa's" watch feel.
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Back in the day was 5 years ago
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Needs a forum for opinions prior to a purchase

He's young 馃槈

Just be Jack 40 years ago buy a modern watch that suits you and wear the hell out of it. ( if it's already a grandpa feel watch it will be flipped quicker than iHop pancakes on a Saturday morning )
To respond... thank you for replying. Back in the day, is for my interest in watches. I became interested in watches about 5 years ago.
 
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Hi there @jalfreem,

When you first posted I took you for an academic with nothing more to do than write another essay on "is this watch my grail".

However, now knowing your occupation and the requirement to present a faultless demeanour on one hand, and nearly needing a HAZMAT suit in other situations I can understand your ambivalence.

In the hushed alcoves of a chapel or a necropolis, the subdued 1601 would hardly garner attention, but you would have it there to time proceedings etc. and have the satisfaction of knowing it was regulating the activities without fault.

On the other hand, when you have to do the other thankless tasks (which is the other side of your profession) a Casio Mudman would be the go to watch for that activity.

Needless to say, you are unlikely to know exactly when a call will dictate the need for a 1601 or a Casio, so to be able to allow for all contingencies, I would suggest a nice subdued 1601 on your predominant arm, and maybe a Casio on the other just in case you need to remove the 1601 for personal health reasons.

Just my input and may not meet expectations of you or others, but there it is.

Cheers

Jim.
 
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Hi there @jalfreem,

When you first posted I took you for an academic with nothing more to do than write another essay on "is this watch my grail".

However, now knowing your occupation and the requirement to present a faultless demeanour on one hand, and nearly needing a HAZMAT suit in other situations I can understand your ambivalence.

In the hushed alcoves of a chapel or a necropolis, the subdued 1601 would hardly garner attention, but you would have it there to time proceedings etc. and have the satisfaction of knowing it was regulating the activities without fault.

On the other hand, when you have to do the other thankless tasks (which is the other side of your profession) a Casio Mudman would be the go to watch for that activity.

Needless to say, you are unlikely to know exactly when a call will dictate the need for a 1601 or a Casio, so to be able to allow for all contingencies, I would suggest a nice subdued 1601 on your predominant arm, and maybe a Casio on the other just in case you need to remove the 1601 for personal health reasons.

Just my input and may not meet expectations of you or others, but there it is.

Cheers

Jim.
Thank you. I appreciate the response. I do get academic, but I'm not trying to be here. When on the other forum, I would usually state that my thread was philosophical, and hypothetical. Usually it would devolve into "just buy the Submariner." And while I appreciate the advice to buy what I want that is usually given.... I am (while not different than anyone else) in a different working environment than most. There are two sides to this, I can wear what I want (as is logical to do) or wear what fits with my profession (which is more with etiquette) that isn't a requirement for most people today but still is in my profession. The Casio Mudman is on the wrists of a lot of the first responders that I work with and the firemen that I'm on the board with, for reasons mentioned. I've seen Datejusts on the insurance agents in town (bought new in the 80s). In the end, in my latest essays for the search of a one watch, I decided to sell off what I had and abstain from watches. I wife told me to wear something better looking than my g shock 5600, but not new Sub price. So back to the drawing board. Really, like I said I am drawn to Rolex as a "fan boy" but I want a nicer quality watch than the Seiko Sarb033, that I know I can get serviced and repaired, and could last a long time, hence the 1601. If I want a Sub or an Explorer, it would be need to be later due to budget and goals. Thank you for understanding my train of thought and providing an informative response.

I'm not trying to write a comedic essay, or wanting to anger of offend. I'm just wordy.
 
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Hey @jalfreem

Do you like the watch?

Can you afford the watch?

Do you want to own the watch?

Buy the watch!

Worrying about what Hodinkee wrote about the watch, and whether Jack Nicklaus has made it cool, really shouldn't be concerns... what YOU think/want/can afford should be.

Looking forward to seeing pictures of your purchase.
Thank you for the "simple path" or rather clear path. Usually the easiest answer is the one in plain sight. Buy it. If I like it good, if not sell it. I had never considered a vintage watch, let alone a vintage Datejust as an option. Always steering towards newer (1990s to present) dive watches, I hadn't considered a vintage Datejust, until now.

It is becoming apparent that a vintage Datejust would work for me, and give years of good service.
 
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That 1603 is abit steep considering no bracelet included.

BTW, I like 1601 too. Its classic and yet understated. I would prefer the SS as 2 tone makes it more dated looking. I seen celebs wearing 1601 and its really nice. Eg. Carice of GOT.
 
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After watching the recent Hodinkee Talking Watches with Jack Nicklaus, I have been inspired to research and price a Rolex 1601. I am sure that this is a redundant thread, but as I am new to this forum, and wanting to participate in a more researcher, collector, hobbiest/enthusiast way, I wanted to post.

As this is a fresh post for me, and wanting to approach this subject distinct from my goals of finance and stewardship, I am wanting to get back to my original watch interest more as a fan of "classic" design, myth, and ethos. To enjoy a watch.

I have, on another forum, written in circles my own personal philosophy of utility vs Veblen and luxury compared to my goals of monetary stewardship, that I had only focused on why a Rolex SubC was the logical grail for myself and that I couldn't justify spending that amount of money on one at this point in my life, let alone my perceptions of offending others with a "luxury" watch on my wrist. With that.... I have come to realize that I want and will use a good watch, and that watch doesn't have to be a SubC, yet can still be a Rolex. I had completely focused on New prices, and forgot that Rolexes from when Rolex began, are still ticking along, and that great value is there in the vintage pieces that aren't the Subs, Explorers, and Daytonas. If Jack Nicklaus is still wearing his one and only watch, a gold Day Date, throughout his career and as an active sportsman, than a less costly Rolex from the same era can fit the bill too. Plus, for my fears, it would look aged, classic, a "grey suit" blend in kind of way, small and wouldn't draw attention to itself. Plus as I am not a diver, nor would I dive with a Sub anyway, after a good service and gaskets replaced, be water tight and could get wet if it had too. I'm just throwing out thoughts on why not purchase a 1601 to own a classic timepiece that can be a great daily wearer that gives me a connection to the hey day of golfing and sports legends, without breaking the proverbial "bank?" To be blunt, I really want to buy a Rolex (fan boy) and I don't want to go above $3500. Would the 1601 do the job?
 
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Jalfreem - Take a look at my avatar pic...a circa 1971 model 1601 w Rolex black gator strap and 18k gold Rolex crown buckle. All gold you see is 18k. Total investment less than your $3500 budget...

happy shopping
 
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After watching the recent Hodinkee Talking Watches with Jack Nicklaus, I have been inspired to research and price a Rolex 1601. I am sure that this is a redundant thread, but as I am new to this forum, and wanting to participate in a more researcher, collector, hobbiest/enthusiast way, I wanted to post.

As this is a fresh post for me, and wanting to approach this subject distinct from my goals of finance and stewardship, I am wanting to get back to my original watch interest more as a fan of "classic" design, myth, and ethos. To enjoy a watch.

I have, on another forum, written in circles my own personal philosophy of utility vs Veblen and luxury compared to my goals of monetary stewardship, that I had only focused on why a Rolex SubC was the logical grail for myself and that I couldn't justify spending that amount of money on one at this point in my life, let alone my perceptions of offending others with a "luxury" watch on my wrist. With that.... I have come to realize that I want and will use a good watch, and that watch doesn't have to be a SubC, yet can still be a Rolex. I had completely focused on New prices, and forgot that Rolexes from when Rolex began, are still ticking along, and that great value is there in the vintage pieces that aren't the Subs, Explorers, and Daytonas. If Jack Nicklaus is still wearing his one and only watch, a gold Day Date, throughout his career and as an active sportsman, than a less costly Rolex from the same era can fit the bill too. Plus, for my fears, it would look aged, classic, a "grey suit" blend in kind of way, small and wouldn't draw attention to itself. Plus as I am not a diver, nor would I dive with a Sub anyway, after a good service and gaskets replaced, be water tight and could get wet if it had too. I'm just throwing out thoughts on why not purchase a 1601 to own a classic timepiece that can be a great daily wearer that gives me a connection to the hey day of golfing and sports legends, without breaking the proverbial "bank?" To be blunt, I really want to buy a Rolex (fan boy) and I don't want to go above $3500. Would the 1601 do the job?


Jalfreem - take a look at my avatar pic. it is a model 1601 circa 1971. It has a black gator strap w 18k gold crown buckle and all gold you see in pic is 18k. I have less than your $3500 budget invested.

Happy Shopping
 
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Has to be the 18k 1601 Sigma for me.

That is beautiful, Probably rarer than the equivalent DD 1803 too i supose! 馃榾
 
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Well a 1601 is a good place to start. Its probably the model most recognizable to the masses, and if you're looking for a non-color dial, plentiful and dirt cheap in the Rolex scheme of things. In my opinion, its pretty legit to with collectors. You can get a really good example below the $3500 mark.

The only cons, I would think, is that your $3500 budget gets you into Explorer territory as well.

Please show me where I can get an explorer for $3500. I鈥檝e been looking for over a year for a used one below $5000 and haven鈥檛 found any.
 
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the two tone datejust is the typical older gent watch.

I too would like to see $3500 explorers. The last one I bought wouldve been$4400 if it wasnt for ebay beginning to collect taxes. $5000 is more consistent with the general price. But with the economy in this state, I wouldn't be surprised if it begins to decline a bit.
 
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Please show me where I can get an explorer for $3500. I鈥檝e been looking for over a year for a used one below $5000 and haven鈥檛 found any.


the two tone datejust is the typical older gent watch.

I too would like to see $3500 explorers. The last one I bought wouldve been$4400 if it wasnt for ebay beginning to collect taxes. $5000 is more consistent with the general price. But with the economy in this state, I wouldn't be surprised if it begins to decline a bit.

When your reading a 2017 started thread, $3500 wasn鈥檛 unheard of 馃槈
 
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When your reading a 2017 started thread, $3500 wasn鈥檛 unheard of 馃槈

Thats makes way more sense! Totally missed the origins of the thread. 馃槜
 
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Thats makes way more sense! Totally missed the origins of the thread. 馃槜
Oops. I missed that as well. I try to look for that, but this time I missed it. Guess I started look for an explorer 3 years too late!
 
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A 1601 is an awesome watch, reliable and will last a long time. Its a timeless classic, it tells the time and the date which is so important on a daily wearer. I am not a huge fan of the older Rolex bracelets, so I would be tempted to put it on a strap and find a period correct Rolex buckle. I personally like a smooth bezel, so I prefer the 1600, and the 1603 bezel is also a nice alternative. Hold off until you find one in the best possible condition. Gook luck.
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I love the 1601. I bought my wife a birth year one and it looks amazing on her. For me I ended up getting the modern 42 mm date just models ( one blue and one white) although I may end up getting a 1971 1601 for me one day as a birth year gift.