How to pick a good seller

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So if I buy at 1000 and the seller declare 50 value at moment of shipping, I must pay taxes only on 50


I don't think this forum condones that kind of behavior
 
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TBH, California and local sales/use tax may be the bigger issue here in monetary terms. It's likely on the order of 10%, whereas duties/fees on a properly declared import are much less, and often zero. Still, in general, the forum tends to frown on public discussions of circumventing the law, and in principle, we are all responsible for paying state and local taxes on all purchases, regardless of whether the seller requires it. So my suggestion is to just take this whole conversation off line.
 
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TBH, California and local sales/use tax may be the bigger issue here in monetary terms. It's likely on the order of 10%, whereas duties/fees on a properly declared import are much less, and often zero. Still, in general, the forum tends to frown on public discussions of circumventing the law, and in principle, we are all responsible for paying state and local taxes on all purchases, regardless of whether the seller requires it. So my suggestion is to just take this whole conversation off line.

Yes, this thread seems to be taking a hard left even though I'm trying to keep it straight.

I have found a stateside seller who can sell to me legally without having to charge sales tax. All above the table.

Thanks to all who contributed.
Over and out.
 
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So if I buy at 1000 and the seller declare 50 value at moment of shipping, I must pay taxes only on 50
I was recently asked to do this on a shipment to EU. Ship fully insured and declare a very low value. It hurt to lose the sale but I’m not going to break the law.
 
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I was recently asked to do this on a shipment to EU. Ship fully insured and declare a very low value. It hurt to lose the sale but I’m not going to break the law.
In Luxembourg the Customs agents are razor sharp on the value of items they clear. You can declare what you want but if they value it higher then you have serious problems.
 
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Good for you.

It is not worth it just to save a few bucks. Especially when there are plenty of ways to save money legally.

Unfortunately for many sellers - especially those in California, I will probably not be buying from them. Of course if it's the right seller with the right watch that I can't find elsewhere for a comparable price, I will gladly pay the exta cost of doing business.
 
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Good for you.

It is not worth it just to save a few bucks. Especially when there are plenty of ways to save money legally.

Unfortunately for many sellers - especially those in California, I will probably not be buying from them. Of course if it's the right seller with the right watch that I can't find elsewhere for a comparable price, I will gladly pay the exta cost of doing business.
I’m glad you raised this question….
 
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I was recently asked to do this on a shipment to EU. Ship fully insured and declare a very low value. It hurt to lose the sale but I’m not going to break the law.
Of course, you are the seller and you don’t must to pay taxes
 
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TBH, California and local sales/use tax may be the bigger issue here in monetary terms. It's likely on the order of 10%, whereas duties/fees on a properly declared import are much less, and often zero. Still, in general, the forum tends to frown on public discussions of circumventing the law, and in principle, we are all responsible for paying state and local taxes on all purchases, regardless of whether the seller requires it. So my suggestion is to just take this whole conversation off line.
Ok, sorry. I’m not US based buyer
 
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Of course, you are the seller and you don’t must to pay taxes
I’m not going to help anyone else evade them. As far as I’m concerned I’m on the hook until the buyer confirms receipt.
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Of course, you are the seller and you don’t must to pay taxes

But even a seller is bound by export/shipping laws of their own country to declare truthfulness.

Also it’s not about the seller can just lie for you because he doesn’t pay the taxes in your country.

Working in the industry, governments are pretty good at taking information from under declared goods. And once you get to the goods being over $1000 it’s even more of an issue. And your name and address is usually on the package or FedEx DHL, postal slip


Funny how people always think Customs stopped them at the airport and went through their bags for no reason 😗😉
 
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Saving money where the law allows you to is one thing. "Circumventing" the law, or in other words committing fraud to save a few dollars will eventually catch up with you. Probably starting with having that watch you were waiting for get seized. That would be your best case scenario.

It's not the 70's anymore - proceed at your own risk