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How many turns of winding would make a watch work?

Seoul_KIM
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Hello everyone, I am into mechanical watches only for a year now, and it started from purchasing a 3861 speedmaster. My 3861 speedmasters start to work after 3-6 turns of winding, after it has come to a complete stop (i.e. a few hours or days after it became dead). It's pretty consistent in terms of how many turns of windings it would need. My 321 EW, however, insn't that consistent - sometimes 6-10 turns or sometimes it needs more like 10-15. Once, what happened was it did not move at all, even after a full winding (i.e. winding till the crown won't move at all), so I gave it one small shake, then it started to work as usual.

Is this normal? Do you think it's worth checking at Omega official service center (& go to Swiss if needed)?

Thanks a lot for reading.
 
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Nothing you've written would worry me. I've had Rolex models with the 3135 movement that took 20 or more turns to start up. My watchmaker inspected them and said they were running fine with nothing to worry about.
 
Wahoo98
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Sounds pretty normal to me. I had one watch that would not start without a shake even after many turns - believe it was a beat error issue and fully resolved when that was adjusted. But what you describe sounds pretty typical.
 
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Sounds pretty normal to me. I had one watch that would not start without a shake even after many turns - believe it was a beat error issue and fully resolved when that was adjusted. But what you describe sounds pretty typical.
Do you think I need to check my watche's beat error? Thx.
 
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Nothing you've written would worry me. I've had Rolex models with the 3135 movement that took 20 or more turns to start up. My watchmaker inspected them and said they were running fine with nothing to worry about.
Thanks
 
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Seoul_KIM Seoul_KIM
Do you think I need to check my watche's beat error? Thx.
I wouldn’t think so unless you are having more issues than you are describing. There are some really knowledgeable watchmaking folks on here (not me however) - perhaps someone will weigh in with a more informed opinion.
 
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I wouldn’t think so unless you are having more issues than you are describing. There are some really knowledgeable watchmaking folks on here (not me however) - perhaps someone will weigh in with a more informed opinion.
Thanks a lot for advice!
 
Evitzee
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Some watches won't automatically start up, requiring a little shake to get them moving. Just depends on the watch's condition, design and other things. I don't see any issue with your watches. Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
 
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Do you think I need to check my watche's beat error? Thx.
Nothing you've described calls for additional testing. You're fine.
 
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Tested a few watches lying around wound down:

Omega AT cal 8500- 5 winds
Rolex cal 3130 - 10
Omega Connie cal 561- 5
Omega Connie cal 564 - 5 (with the impossible to wind octagonal crown- so poor quality winds)
Omega Connie cal 551- 2
Omega Connie cal 751- started when I picked it up before any wind
Seiko Turtle cal 6309- 1 shake (autowind only)
Seiko Chrono cal 6139- just breathed on it (autowind only)

I like these scientific experiments! My conclusion is your watch is good.
 
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Evitzee Evitzee
Some watches won't automatically start up, requiring a little shake to get them moving. Just depends on the watch's condition, design and other things. I don't see any issue with your watches. Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
Haha thanks - will keep your last sentence in mind!
 
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SOG53 SOG53
Tested a few watches lying around wound down:

Omega AT cal 8500- 5 winds
Rolex cal 3130 - 10
Omega Connie cal 561- 5
Omega Connie cal 564 - 5 (with the impossible to wind octagonal crown- so poor quality winds)
Omega Connie cal 551- 2
Omega Connie cal 751- started when I picked it up before any wind
Seiko Turtle cal 6309- 1 shake (autowind only)
Seiko Chrono cal 6139- just breathed on it (autowind only)

I like these scientific experiments! My conclusion is your watch is good.
Haha great! Many thanks for the experiment!
 
Seoul_KIM
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Evitzee Evitzee
Some watches won't automatically start up, requiring a little shake to get them moving. Just depends on the watch's condition, design and other things. I don't see any issue with your watches. Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
Omega service center is located near where I stay, so visited them to check. They confirmed no issue, and I can just give it a shake, if it won't move after winding, and this behaviour is normal. Thx.
 
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All perfectly normal.
The two watches have completely different kinds of escapements.
If you do a quick and dirty google search regarding the differences.
I fully expect the search results will clarify the situation for you.
 
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D Duckie
All perfectly normal.
The two watches have completely different kinds of escapements.
If you do a quick and dirty google search regarding the differences.
I fully expect the search results will clarify the situation for you.
Thanks let me do homework.
 
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D Duckie
All perfectly normal.
The two watches have completely different kinds of escapements.
If you do a quick and dirty google search regarding the differences.
I fully expect the search results will clarify the situation for you.
There's nothing to be clarified. There's no problem here.
 
Larry S
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Some need more winds. This is no big deal .. what always amazed me is how my Rolex models 5513, 1675, GMT Master II start as soon as they are touched.
 
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I am in the habit of a complete wind for any automatic that has been sitting for a while. Thirty turns is what works for me.
 
Seoul_KIM
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Some need more winds. This is no big deal .. what always amazed me is how my Rolex models 5513, 1675, GMT Master II start as soon as they are touched.
My 3861s tend to start with only 2-3 winds, too.
 
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