As has been said before buy the seller.....

1). https://omegaforums.net/threads/1973-king-seiko-hi-beat-5625-7111.54191/

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It looks like the hobbyist seller comes out a winner.

 

I know who I would buy from, and who I wouldn't.

 

The great thing is the KS sales ad was immediately updated post-sale once the seller was notified it might be redial. The thing with vintage Seiko is there's less information out there in the English language, so it sometimes takes a bit of digging to figure out what was original and what wasn't. Another example of a redialed vintage Seiko that catches a lot of informed people unaware is the black-dialed 57GS/43999, which never existed as far as most very serious Seiko collectors believe. However, you'll see a black-dialed 57GS up for sale from a Japanese seller who seems to have an endless supply of them. The dial looks pretty good, but it never existed:


Edit: Pic not mine, from watchdxb.com who I believe is a member here and has a great blog!

Glad to see such passionate collectors and sellers on here who value complete (and sometimes brutal) honesty.

 

So,
1. buy low at risk
2. discover there are in fact issues (risk realized)
3. proceed with sale using your reputation as leverage to justify high price
3a) disclose any issues fully (even when discovered after listing item) and bear the cost of realized risk (lower selling price and lower profit)
3b) hide issues in ambiguity and avoid bearing cost of realized risk (higher profit potential - if no one on OF calls you out)

If seller is only selling one time, attempting to do 3b has limited impact. If seller plans to sell many more in the future, then their reputation suffers and higher price in #3 will become more difficult.

 

This gives me all the more reason to accept less than perfect dials.

 

And rule numero uno: condition is always mint. Give me a buffing wheel and all my pieces will be "mint" in 5 minutes

 

And that's the second seiko mentioned in this thread that I like, redial or not... Does that make me a bad person?

 

What is even sillier is that the second seller actually spelled dial wrong, muddying the waters further.

The dail is the Irish parliament by the way.

 

Not at all! I kind of like it too, and have thought on and off about buying it as a "beater" watch to compliment the silver dial version. The cases are usually over polished though, so it kind of lacks some of the case appeal of an all original 5722.

 

Seconded, his GS posts have been wonderful.

 

Agreed. Have bought from "Franz" before and he is honest with a degree of transparency you don't see elsewhere.

 

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Mods please remove this thread as it was not my intention to do anything other than praise @Franz for he's trustful character compared to the other member

Removing the othe member makes this not the intent of the thread I created

 

Well, kudos to @Franz for acting quite gentlemanly after an honest mistake.

I'm sorry that others who came late to the thread will have a difficult time figuring out who the disingenuous seller was/is in your comparo .

For new members: just always be sure to check the Feedback section prior to any purchase, and don't be afraid to ask other members via PM prior to buying.