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how about this 1943 Omega ref 2364 30T2 Rg

  1. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    PB011746.JPG PB011741.JPG PB011748.JPG PA241648.JPG PA241650.JPG PB011744.JPG PB011745.JPG PB011743.JPG Hey all.

    wanted a second, or third, or fourth opinion.

    How about this Omega? Recent acquisition

    1943 (9.81 million) Omega 17 jewel 30T2 Rg.

    Case reference 2364

    Needed a balance staff....Now its fully serviced... maybe the reason it was preserved so nicely?

    Case shows almost no use. (stainless steel) and is 33mm across w/o crown
     
  2. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Nov 1, 2015

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    The dial has been replaced but it looks like an Omega dial from another model. It should have Chronometre written on it.
     
  3. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    are you 100% certain? haven't you seen other early early 30T2 RG chronometers without it written on the dial and no adjusted 5 positions and temp?
     
  4. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    like before they actually started certifying them via COSC standards they weren't required to have the chronometer on the dial and the adjustments marked on the movement.
     
  5. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Nov 1, 2015

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    All of the 2364s I have seen have had Chronometre written on them but maybe @mac_omega can help.
     
  6. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    thank you also for the input!
     
  7. vinn2

    vinn2 Nov 1, 2015

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    i have an omega with that mvt.. as i recall it has a broad arrow on the mvt.. ill try to find it.
     
  8. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Nov 1, 2015

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    Absolutely - that dial is not original to that watch and is about 10 years younger than the rest of the watch (assuming the case and movement did indeed leave the factory together).
     
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  9. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    which dial would you say was original for the 2364 reference?
     
  10. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Nov 1, 2015

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    Lots of styles. Here is one of them:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 1, 2015

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    so the hands are not original also? they probably got moved with the newer dial?
     
  12. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Nov 1, 2015

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    Should be leaf styled hands like the one in Mike's picture.
     
  13. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 1, 2015

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    You can see how they have lapped and polished the case by the caseback edge still having older deep scratches. ::facepalm2::
     
  14. mac_omega

    mac_omega Nov 2, 2015

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    Sorry to be late to the party due to time difference...

    As others have already stated: dial is absolutely wrong on this watch. And case has been worked on for sure.

    It can´t be told which dial would have sat in this watch initially as there has been a wide variety of dials in use on the chronometers those days...

    sorry to be a bearer of bad news

    Erich
     
  15. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 2, 2015

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    case has been worked on? like more then being polished? at least the early case reference and movement serial number are close, so likely at least the case and movement are likely original? or due to the dial and hands being changed its hard to tell?

    thank you everyone for helping me
     
  16. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 2, 2015

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    so at this point would a redial be worse then waiting for a used 30mm chronometer dial to become available ? I also need to search for some hands it looks like. I need to get this watch back to how it originally was, or as close as I can get it
     
  17. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 2, 2015

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    Yes besides being polished, parts, notably the the back, have be been ground.
     
  18. watch_mechanic

    watch_mechanic Nov 2, 2015

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    please clarify
     
  19. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 2, 2015

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    Agreed. The hands are find able. The dial will be more difficult but a 30mm dial of the right age period would be better then the nice, but inappropriate one that is on there now.
     
  20. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 2, 2015

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    Course metal grinding causing the striations you see on the the back and the back of the lugs to remove dings or possibly an inscription.