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Horotec 2 Prong Case Back Opener vs Generic 3 Prong

  1. GuiltyGear Apr 20, 2024

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    Hi all. I need an opener for those cases where a ball isn't enough. Unfortunately I don't have the space for a 5700 (clone), so I need something relatively compact. Both for storing and maybe take it with me if I'll need to check a watch somewhere. I think I'm left with 2 options here:

    1) Horotec 2 prong. Not cheap at $100, but not crazy expensive either, and it looks like a solid build.

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    2) Generic 3 prong. I can't justify spending $280 on the Bergeon 2813, so a generic $20 one will have to do.

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    My question to you with much more experience, is the Horotec worth the purchase or the generic 3 prong will work the same? Extensibility is also a factor, as I'd like to be able to buy more pins for different case backs. Of course, if you have a suggestion for another tool, please let me know.
     
  2. Dan S Apr 20, 2024

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    That generic 3-prong is crappy. I would buy an L-G 3-prong opener and also a good case-holder with nylon pins.

    But honestly, the 5700 clone is much better, and it's what I usually choose to use, especially with a watch I'm opening for the first time.
     
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  3. wsfarrell Apr 20, 2024

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    The Bergeon 5700 clones vary in quality. The one I tried was terrible, and I tossed it.
    I use the Horotec two-prong opener and like it a lot.
    Whatever opener you go with, I would highly recommend a case holder like the one pictured below. It holds with the strength of a hundred men, and will not damage the case.
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  4. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Apr 20, 2024

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    I find the T style 2 prong openers easier to control than the three prong. Even if there is slight up/down movement as you use it, the pivot point is equally on both pins so slippage is less likely.

    I used to use one of these, which could be very handy for travel.

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    And I would steer well clear of this "in-line" style, too much risk of slipping if your hand moved up/down slightly when opening as the pivot point would be one of the pins causing the other pin to lift.

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  5. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 20, 2024

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    If you are going to go with this hand held style opener, a good quality Jaxa would be my choice. Three points of contact is better in a hand held option.

    The cost of the tool will be minor in comparison to gouging up a bunch of case backs...
     
  6. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Apr 21, 2024

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  7. GuiltyGear Apr 21, 2024

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    Thank you all for the input. I'll see if I can find a decently priced Jaxa that can ship to my country. Otherwise I'll have to go for the Horotec.
     
  8. Aroxx Sets his watch Apr 21, 2024

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    I have a cheap generic 3-prong and like Dan said, it’s crappy. Really low quality and tricky to use without scratching things. I’ve used it successfully so far but I would avoid it. I do like the 3-prong setup though. I’ll have to look into a Jaxa myself sometime.
     
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  9. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Apr 21, 2024

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    Me too. I mostly use a 2 in line.
     
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  10. NotJackson Apr 21, 2024

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    I don’t trust those generic 3-prong tools. I use the LG 3-prong wrench; it is well made and tightens securely.
     
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  11. krogerfoot Apr 21, 2024

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    I got one of these two-prong Meikosha MKS19400 deals and never touched my generic three-pronger again. The MKS made the three-pronger seem like using a coat hanger to open a car door.
     
  12. ScrewDropper Apr 22, 2024

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    Someone else on this chat disagrees but I would say the 5700 clone works pretty well for me.