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Horology 101: Understanding the Speedmaster

  1. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! May 26, 2018

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    Stop trying... it’s an emotional connection, not a logical one.

    Just Enjoy.

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    Not a Speedmaster fan? I feel for ya....

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  2. ReturnOfUltraman May 26, 2018

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  3. BenBagbag May 26, 2018

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    I think this should be pinned. :p
     
  4. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 26, 2018

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    Looking into the future.

    FIFY
     
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  5. ulackfocus May 26, 2018

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    I knew I should have ™ or ® that title. ::facepalm2:: ::rant:

    BTW, if I were still moderating I would have changed that title in a second. Urology might have been a better word IMO. ::stirthepot:: :D
     
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  6. Buck2466 May 26, 2018

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    Bingo!
     
  7. staristheanswer May 27, 2018

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    You should have put © and all your problems would be solved :D
     
  8. Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer May 27, 2018

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    Might be time for a top 25 speedmaster list.

    A few nominations (in no order): IMG_20170609_165114.jpg IMG_20170624_141023.jpg CameraZOOM-20160110145729068.jpg

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  9. dougiedude Carpe horologium! May 27, 2018

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    And..

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  10. Tony C. Ωf Jury member May 27, 2018

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    While I don't have quite the same visceral reaction as Dennis to all the Speedmaster love, I do find it ironic that they have gained such exalted status in spite of a fundamental design flaw. :D
     
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  11. ReturnOfUltraman May 27, 2018

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    Out of all the Speedys that I’ve had a chance to own, I’ll nominate this one:
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  12. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF May 27, 2018

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    You mean that misplaced dot next to the 90 in the pre-moon models?
     
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  13. Gurn May 27, 2018

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    I would like a 101 from you with the history and variations on these.
     
  14. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF May 27, 2018

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    Great idea! That's never been done...
     
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  15. Tony C. Ωf Jury member May 27, 2018

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    No. I refer a much more fundamental flaw: there is no (design) distinction made between the chronograph functions and basic time functions.

    This is not something that most buyers or collectors think about, as chronographs are almost invariably used today as fashion accessories, and not serious tools. But given that there was at least the pretence that watches such as the Speedmaster were originally designed to be serious tools, I cannot excuse what I consider to be such a fundamental flaw.

    For the benefit of those who may not be clear about what I am talking about, consider, in contrast, that these Roamer Stingrays (left and right) feature red chrono hands that match the red chrono sub-dial hands, while the hour, minute and (sub-dial) second hands are all finished in contrasting colors. What that means, from a practical standpoint, is that at a quick glance, typically all that was possible when used under pressure (think auto racing in the case of the Roamer), the eye is immediately drawn to, and can quickly focus on the two or three crucial hands.

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    The understanding of the significance of separating the two basic functions was not lost on other companies, either, as you can see with this Movado. Although the stop-second hand is not red, it is a different color than the sub-second hand, and so a form of separation still exists.

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    There are many other examples and variations, and while my criticism may seem pedantic, I actually consider it to be fully justified in the context of a watch such as the Speedmaster, given how it has long been marketed as a serious tool watch.
     
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  16. MaiLollo May 27, 2018

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    In all fairness, they did correct this flaw on the Racing versions :)
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  17. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! May 27, 2018

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    Fie on thee, wretch. 'Tis pity that thou liv'st. To walk where any honest men resort. :whipped:
     
  18. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector May 27, 2018

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    @Tony C. the car races in the day, Le Mans and the like we're all so long the need for a red hand was not needed. ;)

    The 42mm in the day of 35-38mm was brilliance :whistling:
     
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  19. Tony C. Ωf Jury member May 27, 2018

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    Wait – you are arguing that chronographs were only used by drivers to record the final time of races?!
     
  20. ulackfocus May 27, 2018

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    And the Alaska Project.

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