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History of the 1116 bracelet clasps

befobe
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Good morning OF, I have a question about this bracelet; I have 2 bracelets with 2 different clasps and 2 different endlinks...
Maybe one of those are fake... (Or both!... I hope not...) .. In fact I look for info about the production dates of the #11 and #30 clasp, to see which one would be the best for my 145.012. And also, would like to know which endlinks fits with the right clasp... Because they are all marked 575 but look really very different... If you have opinions about that, don't hesitate!
Thanks a lot.
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befobe
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Oh, Great, lot of info here, thanks !
@Passover: It you're right, I will keep the 11, since my 145012 is from 1968.
@zoohannover : a real database, this thread! Very useful, thanks again.

What is strange is that 11 and 30 are really really different, 30 is more than 10mm longer than 11!... And I barely see these clasp details in the different bracelet adds...
 
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Learning new things every day...as I seek bracelet end links for my 68' Seamaster chrono.
 
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RODDYJB RODDYJB
Learning new things every day...as I seek bracelet end links for my 68' Seamaster chrono.
That's finally what I prefer in this hobby... Thanks OF!
 
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Very interesting.

My own NOS 1116/575 bracelet is marked "31" though. Any others with similar markings?

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befobe befobe
Good morning OF, I have a question about this bracelet; I have 2 bracelets with 2 different clasps and 2 different endlinks...
Maybe one of those are fake... (Or both!... I hope not...) .. In fact I look for info about the production dates of the #11 and #30 clasp, to see which one would be the best for my 145.012. And also, would like to know which endlinks fits with the right clasp... Because they are all marked 575 but look really very different... If you have opinions about that, don't hesitate!
Thanks a lot.
B.


Hi -Do you have for sale a 1116 bracelet?
 
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J jor1968
Hi -Do you have for sale a 1116 bracelet?

There is a wtb section in the forum for those who have enough posts.

Please don dig out every thread about the 1116 bracelet asking if someone has one for sale.
 
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Oh, thanks for the (troll) feedback. I will stop right now digging “out every thread about the 1116 bracelet asking if someone has one for sale”.
 
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Oh, thanks for the (troll) feedback. I will stop right now digging “out every thread about the 1116 bracelet asking if someone has one for sale”.

It wasn't feedback and I'm not a troll.
 
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Davidt Davidt
It wasn't feedback and I'm not a troll.

Oh, I see, it wasn’t feedback.

I will be sure to keep your orders in mind.
 
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I have the same situation. I have (2) 1116 bracelets...an (11) and a (30) and I want to choose the "correct" one for my 145.012-67 - at first glance the bracelets look the same, but side by side and under closer scrutiny, you begin to see differences... especially the foldover clasps... they are noticeably different. The (11) and the (30) are the same size for the "visible" portion of the clasp (visible raised Omega logo) when closed... but the hidden "interior" portions of the clasp are different sizes. The (11)s are significantly shorter than the (30)s... approximately 33mm as opposed to 38mm. I've attached photos.

Any knowledge would be appreciated. Specifically, as I understand it, the (11)s are older, and perhaps original... but my OCD would prefer more specific information.
 
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I am looking for a 1116 for my 145.016. I know i need the 548 endlinks but is anyone familiar with this clasp execution? It is being offered localy as a 1116 148.
Any help is appreciated!

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To me this looks like a 1116 which came off a Chronostop. These are not 20 mm at the last link before the end link.

Also I have never seen a 1116 with holes at the last link before the endlink.

For comparism, here are pics of a 1116/123, 18 mm endlinks.
 
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vienna vienna
To me this looks like a 1116 which came off a Chronostop. These are not 20 mm at the last link before the end link.

Also I have never seen a 1116 with holes at the last link before the endlink.

For comparism, here are pics of a 1116/123, 18 mm endlinks.
Yeah, and i havent seen any with "U. S. A." stamp on a clasp.
 
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Eve Eve
Yeah, and i havent seen any with "U. S. A." stamp on a clasp.

For what it’s worth, I have never seen the USA stamp either.
 
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befobe befobe
Good morning OF, I have a question about this bracelet; I have 2 bracelets with 2 different clasps and 2 different endlinks...
Maybe one of those are fake... (Or both!... I hope not...) .. In fact I look for info about the production dates of the #11 and #30 clasp, to see which one would be the best for my 145.012. And also, would like to know which endlinks fits with the right clasp... Because they are all marked 575 but look really very different... If you have opinions about that, don't hesitate!
Thanks a lot.
B.
The upper End Links are Service parts from Omega.
 
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Omega had bracelets made in a number of countries. I have USA-made bracelet made by Jacoby-Bender, for example.

Tom
 
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