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·Anyway - it went for 2500€ plus premium (only one bidder, and on site).
So what do you think Guys - right or wrong price??
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Heuer Carrera 3647 - finding production year??
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·@MRC: I live in Sweden, and the auction was in Germany, so no VAT.
The price was i bit high, but I could live with that, if only he auction house could have helped me with more pics..
I wanted to see more on the dial, and also the luggs..
And a service on that movement - I think closer to 700-800 €.
The price was i bit high, but I could live with that, if only he auction house could have helped me with more pics..
I wanted to see more on the dial, and also the luggs..
And a service on that movement - I think closer to 700-800 €.
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·And another strange thing....
Nobody placed a bid on this Heuer..??
It a 3647, service recently, and its VERY clean/polished..
And when I tried to ask about this one, I didn't get much, but they said that there was NO serial nr, isn't that strange??
Nobody placed a bid on this Heuer..??
It a 3647, service recently, and its VERY clean/polished..
And when I tried to ask about this one, I didn't get much, but they said that there was NO serial nr, isn't that strange??
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·Movement...
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·Not the best price I agree.
As for the auction house, unfortunately this is standard behavior - their 'experts' say everything is amazing, but never want to discuss with you.
For the black dial one, what was the starting bid? It's polished but is a very early example, likely 1964.
As for the auction house, unfortunately this is standard behavior - their 'experts' say everything is amazing, but never want to discuss with you.
For the black dial one, what was the starting bid? It's polished but is a very early example, likely 1964.
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·And some more pictures..
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·And freshly serviced...Check-out the price!!!
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·Not the worst starting price, not the best either. I could see that turning away bidders looking for a potential deal
It's possible the serial number has been polished off, it can be done if the person doing the polishing is not very sympathetic or not paying attention...
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·Not the worst starting price, not the best either. I could see that turning away bidders looking for a potential deal
It's possible the serial number has been polished off, it can be done if the person doing the polishing is not very sympathetic or not paying attention...
so it must have been done earlier? Anyway - a vintage watch with no serial nr feels a bit spooky...?
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·Regarding the serial nr - the latest service was done by Wempe, they are an authorized dealer (i think...?),
so it must have been done earlier? Anyway - a vintage watch with no serial nr feels a bit spooky...?
Oftentimes, an AD that specializes in modern watches will just polish the hell out of a vintage watch - in their view, it must look brand new when they are done with it. So I would expect Wempe may have done this.
For vintage watches, one must choose a proper vintage specialist service center who will respect the history and originality of the watch, and just service the movement.
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·Whoever paid this must have been desperate to get their money back, and failed in the auction. My usual watchmaker for Valjoux movements sends me an email for any part he thinks needs replacing and asks for my approval, which I have always given. BTW, the last crystal I have had replaced in a 1960s Carrera cost £15 including fitting -- by a Rolex AD's watchmaker.
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·That bill comes with "friendly greetings" from the watchmaker but it's not at a friendly price!
Whoever paid this must have been desperate to get their money back, and failed in the auction. My usual watchmaker for Valjoux movements sends me an email for any part he thinks needs replacing and asks for my approval, which I have always given. BTW, the last crystal I have had replaced in a 1960s Carrera cost £15 including fitting -- by a Rolex AD's watchmaker.
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You really have an affordable watchmaker, and hopefully you think he/she is good also?
There are not so many here in Sweden (non AD), and the ones that are good know about it, and with that a large bill...
You don't to live near Sweden (your watchmaker..)?
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·For the Valjoux-based watches, chronomatics and Landeron when I get round to having it serviced, I use Richard Askham who is in Yorkshire. Good work, very conscientious and communicates very well. Has an established client base so his order-book is always full. http://thewatchspotblog.com/ Prices are very reasonable because he works from home and doesn't have to maintain commercial premises. He's very popular with the vintage Heuer community, you can see from his website that he works on many makes.
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·For the Valjoux-based watches, chronomatics and Landeron when I get round to having it serviced, I use Richard Askham who is in Yorkshire. Good work, very conscientious and communicates very well. Has an established client base so his order-book is always full. http://thewatchspotblog.com/ Prices are very reasonable because he works from home and doesn't have to maintain commercial premises. He's very popular with the vintage Heuer community, you can see from his website that he works on many makes.
Now that was a nice link!
I have been reading it for a while now, and I have to say that he really knows what he's doing!
I wonder how it works for non-EU folks..?
I do have a watch that's in need for a service - A Breitling 1806 from 1968,
and he had a post on a similar movement!
I think I will send him an e-mail?
Thanks mate for the help, and take care!
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·Hi again guys!
I have been thinking about the Heuer 3647N (black), do you think its a bummer that there isn't a serial number?
I do think the watch is in a nice condition, even if it's polished....
I don't trade or sell my watches, so its going to be a keeper, but maybe down the line..you never know?
I have been thinking about the Heuer 3647N (black), do you think its a bummer that there isn't a serial number?
I do think the watch is in a nice condition, even if it's polished....
I don't trade or sell my watches, so its going to be a keeper, but maybe down the line..you never know?
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·I think it’s too expensive considering the problems with the case. I’m sure for €5000 you could get a much nicer example.
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·I think it’s too expensive considering the problems with the case. I’m sure for €5000 you could get a much nicer example.
A do still wonder what you think about the serial nr? Not only on this watch..
Do people get scared ?
There was a Daytona here in Sweden that was up for an action with missing numbers in the serial, and some folks moved away from it.
Even though the watch was very nice!
