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Help with vintage Zenith - Real/Redial/Comments?

  1. chronos Oct 5, 2016

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    When I started collecting watches, I bought the following Zenith watch. I didn't do any research, I just bought it by impulse because I liked the look of it and thought that even if it was a redial, I wouldn't have lost too much money on it.
    Somehow the watch didn't get any wrist-time and I completely forgot about it. Until today, when I cleaned up my desk and found it under a couple of letters.
    As I wasn't even sure if it was a real Zenith, I opened the case (No, these marks on the caseback aren't proof of my wrongdoing, they were already there when I bought it ;-) )
    Here's what I found out. But let me tell you first that I have no clue about Zenith, as I collect vintage Omega and Breitling watches.

    - About the Movement:
    1) It appears to my untrained eye to be a real Zenith 2572 PC.

    2) As I read online somewhere, the number 380 on the caseback indicates the case should feature such a movement. Which seems to be a good sign so far.

    3) The inner caseback shows signs of wear from contact with the rotor.

    4) The movement looks as it is in urgent need of a service as the rotor itself doesn't easily rotate.

    Questions concerning the movement:
    where's the Serial-number?
    What about the regulator? Is it really supposed to look that way?

    - About the watch as a whole / Ref. Number:
    5) I just found one single watch online which looks the same way - on ebay (Hongkong). For Omegas, that would be a good indicator that it is a redial. But as I know next to nothing about Zenith watches, I'm not even sure what the ref. number is...

    Question about the watch: Is it a real model or a fake / franken / redialed one?

    Here are some pics.
    Any informations are much appreciated!
    Ps, if it helps answering my questions: I live in Switzerland and also bought it here.

    Edited in order to eliminate typos as I'm writing on my cell phone.



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  2. chronos Oct 7, 2016

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    Nobody? :(
    Do you need better pictures and/or more information?
     
  3. Maybe Oct 7, 2016

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    Its a nice watch. Probably a real one because its not the kind there would be a lot of incentive to fake. I mean, its not gold and probably a 70s watch. Very wearable being an automatic imho.
     
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  4. dx009 Oct 7, 2016

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    It's real and everything about it is legit.
     
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  5. Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Oct 7, 2016

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    I don't have any of my reference material with me as it is somewhere on a container ship, but the reference for this one is the entire number on the case back. There are no serial numbers on these movements unless needed for COSC certificates.
     
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  6. chronos Oct 7, 2016

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    Great, thank you all very much for all these helpful informations! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: