Help with Speedmaster 145.022

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All - I'm relatively new to the forum. I have been studying vintage speedmasters for about 6 months now trying to figure out the reference I am most interested in. I've narrowed it down to the 145.022, preferably 69-71. I have been watching ebay and other sites for watches. I have found that pulling the trigger is a little harder than I thought given I question whether I know enough to discern whether the watch is legit or a lemon. Was wondering if I could ask for your collective help on the following. If there is a better thread for this, let me know.

Watch #1
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/132093850476?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
- Despite being a little banged up, which I kind of like, this one seems to have the correct caseback, bezel, and a logical serial. The only issue I have is that chrono hand - looks like something from a Mark maybe?

Watch #2
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/351981656629?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
- Bezel is a 220
- No mention of serial, so don't know
- Case looks maybe too nice for the age?
- Hands look like tritium hands - question, is it common for the tritium color on the hands and the dial to not match, even if the hands are original?

Watch #3
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/172532027685?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
- This one seems like a really nice one
- 220 bezel
- case, serial, bezel, and hands all seem to be the right time period

Mostly looking to hear if anyone sees something in these watches that stands out as a major red flag. While all of them have a couple things I could take issue with, they seem to be good watches.
 
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Watch #1 is OK, the chrono hand will need to be replaced but shouldn't be too difficult to find. Note the bezel is a DNN, so don't go spending DON money on this one. Serial is in the correct range.

Watch #2 is nice but way too expensive, and I'd want to see the serial number before buying. Contact the seller, ask for the photos, and if it's in range look to pay around $4k max. (Hands are totally fine IMO, yes they age differently than dials often)

Watch #3 is also nice, and also wayyy too expensive. Everything's in order, but if he's selling it to you with the Extract, I'd ask for a photo of that too.
 
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I'd go with the first one. The bracelet makes up for the hands and those can be sorted out by a good watchmaker pretty easily.
 
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Thanks guys - appreciate the color and guidance. Will keep you posted if I pull the trigger. #1 is the only one I think I would consider at this point.
 
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Saw #2 and #3 before. Someone is hoping to cash in on the bezel craze with the 220's. They should not be anywhere close to those prices as mentioned already. As a reference, I paid just tad under $3K for my 69 with ghost DN90 bezel about a month ago.
 
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Good god, #2 and 3 are expensive!

No 1's not grabbing me. It may well look better in the flesh and with a crystal polish, but it's in very average condition, although the picture is doing it no favours. It's one that needs to be seen in the flesh I think to properly gauge it.

Be aware it's a service 1171/1 so not as valuable as the vintage model.
 
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All - one more I am curious to get feedback on.

The ebay listing says its a 1974, but it is a 71 ST from what I can tell. Case back, stepped dial, bezel, and serial (32.3X) all seem correct for the 71 ST reference. My question is on the lume plots - some are smudgy and appear to creep outside the underlying index markers - is this a relume or do you think this is original? Asking price seems a little rich, but seems like a good one to me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162401988754?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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I really don't know enough to help you in your decision making, but once pointed out those gloopy plots do distract (in these photos) ... I feel it's a bit of a shame because it otherwise looks lovely. Can you get to see it in the metal?
 
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I think the lume is all right, the watch just likely spent a lot of time in a humid or hot environment. It is a 145.022-71, the seller probably looked at one of those serial number charts on the internet and determined it was a 1974 model. It's still priced too high for a -71 on an 1171, even if it's a vintage bracelet. Throw a 4k offer over and see what you get.
 
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All - one more I am curious to get feedback on.

The ebay listing says its a 1974, but it is a 71 ST from what I can tell. Case back, stepped dial, bezel, and serial (32.3X) all seem correct for the 71 ST reference. My question is on the lume plots - some are smudgy and appear to creep outside the underlying index markers - is this a relume or do you think this is original? Asking price seems a little rich, but seems like a good one to me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162401988754?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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Lume looks correct to me, and the caseback is also a -71 CB.
 
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Thanks all. @Overgrower I certainly don't mind the patina - I actually prefer the darker hue. I was more concerned about the "smudgy" appearance, but @abrod520 is probably right about humidity. All said, I think the seller is asking way too much at this point...
 
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I'm on the same page as @abrod520 he is asking a bit much esp with that dial and hands. They are not the most attractive set I've seen. The case and bezel are good. If it was a -76 I might be tempted at a price near that as I have a perfect dial and hands in an OK case. And I could swap greatly raising the price of one without adversely affecting the other.

I'm not saying I don't love my -76 and I've got no plans to change anything on it. But if I was interested in flipping I would have a near collector grade and a good grade. The dial and hands on this one severely affect the overall value on this piece and knock it down into good.